Re: Nazir - running away from my post on the book you never read ?
- From: koolfireiii@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 30 Apr 2006 12:19:43 -0700
gunjan.ghai@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Nazir
no response to my comments on your foolish jihadi attempt to say that
Sarah McDonald's book was a book written about india
You tried to prove me a liar to the world....only to be proven a fake
yourself...
No comments ? Now go read the book and find out what she had to say
about paki men sodomizing boys and that being the cause of spread of
HIV...infact she said that male-male sex is treated as 'fun' in
pakistan and people dont label it as homosexuality...and that has
caused the spread of HIV
No answers...as usual...and you think you are good at debate ? You are
as illiterate as your country is...LoL (remember - y ou have not been
able to explain why a 'richer' country like yours has lesser literacy
rates than India)
here is a report from boston globe...with addl research material,shown
in the 2 nd link
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2004/07/11/open_secrets/
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Open secrets
In Pakistan, sex between men is strictly forbidden by law and religion.
But even in the most conservative regions, it's also embedded in the
society.
By Miranda Kennedy | July 11, 2004
LAHORE -- The first time Aziz, a lean, dark-haired 20-year-old in this
bustling cultural capital, had sex with a man, he was a pretty,
illiterate boy of 16. A family friend took him to his house, put on a
Pakistani-made soft-porn video, and raped him. Now, says Aziz (who
gives only his first name), he is "addicted" to sex with men, so he
hangs around Lahore's red-light districts, getting paid a few rupees
for sex. At night, he goes home to his parents and prays to Allah to
forgive him.
ADVERTISEMENT
In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, homosexuality is not only illegal,
it is a crime punishable by whipping, imprisonment, or even death. But
across all classes and social groups, men have sex with men. In
villages throughout the country, young boys are often forcibly "taken"
by older men, starting a cycle of abuse and revenge that social
activists and observers say is the common pattern of homosexual sex in
Pakistan. Often these boys move to the cities and become prostitutes.
Most people know it happens -- from the police to the wives of the men
involved.
In some areas, homosexual sex is even tacitly accepted -- though still
officially illegal -- as long as it doesn't threaten traditional
marriage. In the Northwest Frontier Province (NWFP), which shares many
tribal and cultural links with neighboring Afghanistan, the ethnic
Pashtun men who dominate the region are renowned for taking young boys
as lovers. No one has been executed for sodomy in Pakistan's recent
history, but across the border in Afghanistan, the Taliban (who are
also overwhelmingly Pashtun) executed three men for sodomy in 1998 by
bulldozing a brick wall over them, burying two of them alive. (The
third survived, which meant, according to Taliban law, that he was
innocent, so he was taken to a hospital for treatment.)
Among Pakistan's urban elite, there is a growing community of men who
identify as gay, some of whom even come out to their friends. Men meet
on Internet bulletin boards, or at private pool parties with lots of
rented boys and heavy security. But they are a tiny, terrified
minority, living in cities such as Lahore, Karachi, or Islamabad, where
the cultural elite has carved out a niche for itself. In a country
where alcohol is forbidden except to Christians, dancing is banned, and
the Koran guides many aspects of criminal law, such men rarely step
outside of their protected world. (Because women in Pakistan inhabit,
for the most part, a strictly private realm, it is difficult to say
with any certainty how common lesbian relationships may be.)
Homosexuals in Pakistan walk a fine line between harsh legal and
cultural prohibition and some form of unspoken social acceptance.
"Islamic tradition frowns on but acknowledges male-male sex, and this
plays a role in permitting clandestine sex so long as it is not allowed
to interfere with family life, which is of paramount importance," the
San Francisco-based sociologist Stephen O. Murray writes in "Sociolegal
Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison," a collection of
scholarly essays published in 1997. Further complicating matters, the
most common form of male homosexuality in Pakistan, according to
Murray, is pederasty, where an older man entices or coerces (sometimes
forcibly) a younger boy into sex. Continued...
go to the boston globe link and read the rest...
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