Re: Cramer tilts on Scandinavia (was Re: When and How the Jewish People Was Invented?, by Tel Aviv University historian, Prof. Shlomo Sand)
- From: "Markku Grönroos" <kurkku@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:31:19 +0200
DO NOT CROSSPOST THIS SHIT ALL OVER THE USENET.
"Eugene Holman" <holman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> kirjoitti viestissä:holman-0712081316230001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <qNKdnTlAT_htNabUnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ben Cramer"
<ben'salways@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Eugene Holman" <holman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message<deletions>
news:holman-0712081147500001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> In actual fact, though, you are wrong yet again. When German Jews were
> forced to take surnames during the 18th century, a favored strategy was > to
> choose a name containing a word designating a basic element of nature:
> <wasser> 'water', <gold> 'gold', <silber> 'silver', <stein> 'stone',
> <berg> 'mountain', <blume> 'flower', <feld> 'field'. The element <burg>
> means 'fortress' and is *not* an element of nature, but rather an > artefact
> and thus unsuitable as a German-Jewish name. I doubt that you can > produce
> more than two or three German-Jewish surname containing <burg>, but you
> would have no difficulty at all finding names in <berg> such as > Hochberg,
> Steinberg, Schatzberg, and Blumberg.
You didn't address the main issue. There are lots of German-Jewish names
containing <berg>, but virtually none containing <burg>. You seldom have
the facts to back up what you pontificate about.
<deletions>
> I didn't even need 300 words to do it, kangeroo kid.
Failed miserably though, didn't you. Despite your screeching to the
contrary.
Declaring victory and trying to walk away won't work.
You have failed ignominiously to:
1. demonstrate that many German-Jewish surnames contain <burg>;
2. demonstrate that the presence of <berg> in a surname usually indicates
that the bearer of said name is a Jew;
3. demonstrate that you know anyhting at all about what you are
pontificating about.
Now, off to work or admit defeat.
Regards from up the evolutionary ladder,
Eugene Holman
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