Re: Living Languages of Malaya(1970)

Hi Mr Haj, in a sense it can also be questioned which clans and tribes of Malaysia is the real native here too, there are Melayu Proto, Melayu Samudera,Indo-Melayu of Tibetan and Burmese origin, Melayu Tagalog and there are indeed Melayu tanah besar which they still remain in China too for what being largely and collectively known as "Bangsa Nusantara" so are you Melayu or Chinese by genetic and historical relevance?

Choong


Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad wrote:
http://www.ethnologue.com/14/show_country.asp?name=Malaysia+(Peninsular)

It is interesting for idiots here to note that Kelantan Malay is
lumped together with

BAHASA MALAYSIA, BAHASA MALAYU, MALAYU, MELAJU, MELAYU, STANDARD
MALAY. Dialects: TRENGGANU, KELANTAN, KEDAH, PERAK (SOUTHERN MALAY),
SARAWAK MALAY, BAZAAR MALAY (LOW MALAY, PASAR MALAY, PASIR MALAY,
TRADE MALAY).


Whereas Mandarin and Hakka are separated.
If you click "more information" you'll get the Mandarin dialects:

Dialects HUABEI GUANHUA (NORTHERN MANDARIN), XIBEI GUANHUA
(NORTHWESTERN MANDARIN), XINAN GUANHUA (SOUTHWESTERN MANDARIN),
JINGHUAI GUANHUA (JIANGXIA GUANHUA, LOWER YANGZE MANDARIN).

None of them include Hakka.

It shows that the definition of each language is that, those that are
intelligible to each other are lumped into one language. Variations
are separated into dialects.

Based on these 1970 statistics, Mandarin speakers are a minority group
in Malaya, compared to Hakka., Min Nan(Hokkien etc) and Yue(Cantonese
and others).

The details shows that this data is compiled by an expert who is not
biased at all.




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