Re: What is Trinity, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit ?
- From: "nur abraham" <arah1958@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 29 Mar 2006 18:35:40 -0800
3:62 Behold, this is indeed the truth of the matter, and there is no
deity whatever save God; and, verily, God - He alone - is almighty,
truly wise.
3:63 And if they turn away [from this truth] - behold, God has full
knowledge of the spreaders of corruption.
3:64 Say: "O followers of earlier revelation! Come unto that tenet
which we and you hold in common: [49] that we shall worship none but
God, and that we shall not ascribe divinity to aught beside Him, and
that we shall not take human beings for our lords beside God." [50] And
if they turn away, then say: "Bear witness that it is we who have
surrendered ourselves unto Him."
Who invented Trinity?
Trinity was invented by Paul or his jewish name Saul. He was a great
murderer and killed many of the followers of Jesus. Paul cos the
Christian to pray to Jesus instead of praying to one GOD (ALLAH). Did
Jesus mention anywhere that Christian must pray to 3 GOD or pray to
him? How to pray to Jesus who can't even able to save himself from
being crusified. Or GOD must be very weak who can even save his beloved
son and let the murderer goes free.
Paul: Greatest or False Apostle?
www.yahuah.org/Paul.html
Brought up in a Protestant home and eagerly embracing fundamentalist
Christianity, it was a shock to family and friends when I began to
allow myself to question Paul. In my questioning, I had no desire to
"throw out" any of the Christian Bible, but to allow for conspiracy
within it. I felt that blind acceptance of everything said in the
canonized books made it impossible to fully heed the wheat and tares
message (Matt. 13:24-43) and the warning against those coming to steal
the flock (John 10:1-16). Because of these nagging concerns, actually
with me from childhood, I argue from the New Testament Scriptures alone
that "Apostle Paul" is a self-proclaimed apostle and a liar.
Many warn that questioning Paul is a slippery slope; of first
questioning parts of the New Testament and then throwing out all that
is known to us as Christianity. I am continually faced with the
question of how much of Christianity is a "sun worshipping" religion
and how am I blind to this for having been brought up within
Christianity. While a percentage of the questioners have taken the
route of throwing out Messiah with the New Testament, I retain the
understanding that YHWH came to earth in the flesh. While many cultures
are seen having their gods come to earth in the form of a suffering
Christ, I hold that this is a true desire of mankind, and that
knowledge of the Messiah can be found in what we know today in the New
Testament. That many false Christs are presented does not necessarily
mean, in my understanding, that a true Messiah does not exist.
The basic question, as I see it, is whether Paul preached the true
Messiah. The conflicts between Paul and the original apostles are
presented in the New Testament primarily from Paul's side. He and his
message seem to have gained the upper hand, certainly as far as
Christian history is concerned. However, many voices arise in protest.
One voice is other authors of the New Testament, if we allow them to
speak, i.e., looking at the book of James as a rebuke of Paul. Another
voice speaks from the Dead Sea Scroll manuscripts. Other voices come
from the "Church fathers." Yet other voices come from those who search
the Scriptures today, as the Bereans did when Paul presented an early
message.
I am in the process of reading Jesus' Words Only, by Douglas Del
Tondo, Esq. His background is Reformed Calvinist. He presents the
clearest case I've seen yet that Paul is a False Apostle/False Prophet
whose purpose is to test our allegiance to YHWH.
Deu 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams,
and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto
thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known,
and let us serve them;
Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that
dreamer of dreams: for YHWH your God proveth you, to know whether ye
love YHWH your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deu 13:4 Ye shall walk after YHWH your God, and fear him, and keep his
commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave
unto him.
Deu 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to
death; because he hath spoken to turn [you] away from YHWH your God,
which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the
house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the YHWH thy God
commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the
midst of thee.
Paul claimed that his "signs, and wonders" were a reason one should
accept him as an apostle.
2Co 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all
patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.
Yet, Christians in general do not even consider testing Paul to
determine if he is indeed leading people astray from obedience to YHWH.
I suggest you carefully study the Scriptures concerning the Gospel
that Paul preached. Jesus' Words Only, I feel is a good place to
start. This book is available on-line. Below are a number of
additional articles and web sites questioning Paul and his message.
They come from many points of view. Some of these articles question
everything. Please bear with my attempt to group them into some
semblance of order. It is difficult, for example, as many revisit and
question the divide between Judaism and Christianity in the early
centuries, to say which are Jewish and which are Christian. Any
readers, please feel free to suggest additional sites.
Antichrist or Apostle?
Who are the real Apostles?
Is Paul a liar?
Articles by other authors posted on this web site
New 2/1/06 How the true church of Jesus Christ was stolen, Brother
Theodore Three Bears
The Issue of Apostleship and Widows, Thomas Cossette
Revelation of Daniel, I appreciate Holly Pitcher for sharing this
article with me.
Christianity!? Paul Battig
Doing the twist with Paul, Ethienne. Discussion on the 2 Peter
reference to Paul.
Keep whose commands? Tony Aguilar (Spain)
Paul The Benyamite, article comparing Paul with King Saul, by Tom
Moniz
Web sites questioning Paul
Pro Messiah
New 12/4/05 http://www.jesuswordsonly.com/
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