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C Nimitz Mar 7, 06 3:51pm


If you have the time, feel free to calculate how much life in
Malaysia
costs
subsidised versus real prices!!

Man, bread may be a controlled item in Malaysia but that 80 sen
loaf
is
how
many grams? 250? We have Gardenia bread(non-controlled) that costs
rm1.90
but weights 400 grams and tastes better too.
Guess which one I buy!!!

Gardenia does not taste that great at all dude, I would not buy it
even
to
feed animals... Malaysia has yet to discover REAL bread! That said,
it's
not just bread, but many more items... many small numbers do make a
big
one.
Even you pay RM3 for a 400 gram bread, that is still half of what
you
pay
in
Europe for a bread, a real one though, no dull spongy toastbread
kinda
stuff.


So?
You get the real thing!!! Whereas here we get the spongy thing!!!
So what does that tell you???
You have 14000 instead of 9000.
So you pay more, much more but what you get is much much more!!!
Therefore, 14000 is still better than 9000, isn't it?
The end result is that you are still better off without the subsidy!!!

It tells me that if one is better of without subsidy, that one should
not
make a big deal from the fact that your government is taking back some
of
it... it is for the best. Wether or not local goods will improve... if
there is enough quality comming from abroad a local company is forced to
do
better instead of providing crap for hard earned cash.


Man, that's what we are driving at. But no, it's not working out that way,
that's why we protest, lah man. If we only have to pay RM25000 for Myvi
rather than RM52000, it's ok if the petrol price is RM2.30!!! We are
subsidizing the GLCs on one hand and then have our subsidy taken from our
other hand, that's why we protest.

Can I ask where you get the idea that a MyVi should only cost RM25000?


Your petrol isn't subsidized but your car is so cheap!

Talk to your government, that has all to do with 'national assets' and
'pride', protectionism... nothing to do with how much is earned, that is
just lacking freedom of choice.


You are not seeing the forest for the trees or you don't understand how
things work over here. Talk to the gomen? You're kidding!!! Like i said,
you
don't know how stuffs work here. You don't get the picture. You been too
long gone.


When you buy at such a high price for a car in Malaysia, you take
loan,
you
know, and you have to pay interests over the years, you know.

You make it sound like you can buy a car just like you buy a bicycle...
as
if people do not have to work for it or take out a loan for a car!


Man, if the price is high, you have to take bigger loan, lar man. Bigger
loan means bigger repayment or else longer repayment period.

Longer repayment period... these scemes are about the same as abroad... you
don't get 50 years to pay for a car!

And where did you get the idea intrest rates in Malaysia are x-times higher
then in western countries?


We are talking about take home pay lar man!! Where are you heading??? A
bigger take home pay is anytime better than a smaller take home pay and
comparatively. Comparison already done. Pls re-read previous response.

But you still have many goods subsidised while this is hardly the case in
the west... Take your calculator, it does not only equal out it actually
puts you ahead! Hence the reason why (artificial) growth here is at least
double if not triple that of the average western country.

Yes they get better goods in the west, yes they might earn more in
comparrison, but if that means things are cheaper over there, I don't
think
so!


Say you got 10pounds. I got 3.
You bread is 4pounds and mine is 1pound.
You bread is solid and good, mine(subsidized), is as you say, cannot
compare
with yours.
So, which is better??? Go figure.

Even if (for the sake of the argument) we would pay about the same for a
loaf of bread. Can I help it they cannot or will not bake proper bread in
Malaysia and overprise that sponge stuff? Downside, low standard and poor
quality product for you, and higher profitmargins for Malaysian bread
related companies. That in itself has nothing to do with price but
standards, mentality... the infamous "it's like that in Malaysia, lah" the
everpresent "let-it-be attitude" allows companies to treat it's customers
like this. If the masses don't ask for better, you won't get it. On the
other hand, it's a minority of people who know better... most people have no
idea there are better goods out there and live under the impression that
just about everything in Malaysia is best of the best, top quality, A+++, No
1!!! Can you blame a society that simply doesn't know any better?

I know it would be the wrong thing to do to compare each and every item with
it's equivalent in the west. And I'm sure there are some goods that would
be of better quality or better priced in Malaysia... but as far as the
overall picture goes, standards bite in Malaysia no matter how much you
earn.

Steven


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