Re: Lebanon: A Failed State?

On Nov 28, 4:47 am, Aviroce <dudaras...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You know little about Lebanon's constitution.

<<<<<REPORTER WITH INSIDE KNOWLEDGE FROM USA AND LEBANON MADE THE
ASSESSMENT. I PERSONALLY DO NOT KNOW THE CONSTITUTION OF LEBANON.

Citation ???

SOMEONE WROTE THAT THERE IS AN UNWRITTEN CONSTITUTION ALONG WITH THE WRITTEN ONE. THAT WOULD MAKE THINGS WISHY-WASHY.>>>>>

I stated that there is a separate accord signed by the framers of the
constitution called the National Pact, not an unwritten constitution,
you have poor memory and a lack of understanding of the nuances of the
intricate and outdated Lebanese political system.

Prime minister Sanioura has adhered to the letter and spirit of our constitution.

<<<<KNOWLEDGE OF THOSE REPORTING SAYS THE VERY OPPOSITE.

Again no proof, no citation, just "knowlege of someone reporting"

ALSO LAHUD STATED THAT TOO.>>>>

Oh that must make it true. Lahoud is a co-conspirator in the murder
of many, he is an agent of Syria and generally lacks respect and
credibility from everyone in the world except you and Hizbollah.

Hizbollah smuggles arms illegally into Lebanon,

<<<<<<I AM GLAD THEY CAN DO SO BECAUSE THE LEBANESE ARMY CANNOT STAND
ISRAELI VIOLENCE. SOUTH LEBANON WOULD AGAIN BE IN THE HANDS OF ISRAEL
HAD IT NOT BEEN DEFENDED BY PEOPLE LIKE HEZBOLLAH. HEZBOLLAH IS THE
RIGHT METHOD TO FIGHT AN ENEMY FAR SUPERIOR TO LEBANESE FORCES WHICH
ARE GOOD FOR ONLY CIVILIAN POPULATION. HEZBOLLAH SHOULD ARM ITSELF
WELL ANYWHERE IT CAN GET WEAPONS. IT GETS WEAPONS FROM RUSSIA TOO.
THE MORE THE MERRIER. LACK OF HEZBOLLAH IS THE WESTERN HEGEMONY OVER
LEBANON AND OVER THE OTHER ARAB AND ISLAMIC COUNTRIES. HEZBOLLAH
SHOULD GET MORE SOPHISTICATED WEAPONS FOR THE NEXT FIGHT. WITH ISRAEL
ON THE SOUTH OF
LEBANON THERE WILL BE NO PEACE.>>>>>>

Hizbollah's weapons are at the service of Iran and Syria and are
detrimental to Lebanese stability independence and economic interests.

start wars and intimidate the government with their weapons

<<<<<SANIORA'S GOVERNMENT IS ILLEGAL AND CORRUPT. IT IS DIRECTED BY
ISRAEL AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. USING
ARAB AGAINST ARAB IS A USEFUL MEANS TO COLONIZE AND SUBJUGATE.>>>>>

Sanioura's govermnent is the best lebanon has ever had.

at the service of Iran and Syria

<<<HEZBOLLAH MAY HAVE SUCH CONNECTION BUT IT IS AN INDEPENDENT
ORGANIZATION OPERATING ON ITS OWN INITIATIVES OTHERWISE YOU WOULD
DECLARE WAR ON SYRIA AND IRAN.>>>>>>

lol, I cannot declare war on anything, I am an individual not a
country.

They have no room to talk about legality or legitimacy.

<<<<THEY SURELY ARE OPERATING WITHIN THE LEBANESE LEGALITY. OTHERWISE
THEY WOULD NOT BE EFFECTIVE LEGALLY.>>>>

An illegal terrorist militia, operating at the behest of Iran is
neither legal or legitimate.

They are the ones that are barring the parliament
from meeting to fulfill their constitutional duties

<<<<<THEY ARE OPERATING WITHIN THEIR LEGAL RIGHTS TO STOP AN ILLEGAL
GOVERNMENT FROM BEING FORMED SERVING USA AND ISRAEL.>>>>>>.

empty rhetoric.

Lahoud did the right thing handing the government to defenders of
Lebanon, the Army.

Lahoud is a murderer and a Syrian agent

<<<<<<YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT IS SO. IF SUCH PROOF EXISTS, THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL WOULD USE IT TO IMPOSE THEIR OWN
GOVERNMENT ON LEBANON:COLONIZE LEBANON BY CONTROL EASILY.>>>>>

The proof will come out in the international investigation that is
taking place under the auspices of the UN International Tribunal on
Lebanon.

defending him is like saying Saddam was a good guy

<<<<<SADDAM WAS A VERY GOOD MAN FOR IRAQ AND THE ARAB CAUSE. THE
KILLINGS HE DID WERE IN DEFENSE OF IRAQ AND AGAINST
THE CONSPIRACIES AND SUPPORT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
ANDISRAEL. HE WAS QUASHING TRAITORS IN IRAQ.>>>>>

lol, if Saddam was a good man, then I am at loss of words to answer
that..

and did the right thing by invading kuwait,

<<<<<<KUWAIT WAS PART OF IRAQ AND THE ENGLISH MANAGED TO CUT IT OUT
FOR THEIR CONTROL AND DECLARE IT AS A STATE. THE ENGLISH HAVE ALREADY
ESTABLISHED ANOTHER NEW STATE, SOUTHERN
IRAQ. THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE IS THAT IT IS MORE CONNECTED TO IRAN. SO
THE UNITED STATES WOULD LIKE TO LIQUIDATE IRAN AND TAKE ALL THE OIL
FIELDS.>>>>>

You are sadly misinformed about the Middle East.

it is indefensibe.

<<<<<HIGHLY DEFENSIBLE.>>>>>>>

It seems to me the
assassination has been an internal job.

How do you know its an internal job ?

<<<<<NO OUTSIDE FLAGS HAVE BEEN SHOWN SO FAR. THERE WERE ACCUSATIONS
AGAINST SYRIA BUT NO CONNECTION HAS BEEN DETERMINED. SYRIA WITHDREW
TO AVOID THE BULLY, USA AND ISRAEL FROM DESTROYING THEIR COUNTRY.

There is an international

<<<<USA AND ISRAEL>>>

It is a UN sponsored investigation, requested by the official Lebanese
government.

investigation going on that will specify the identity of the conspirators and
whether they are backed by Syria

<<<<<NO DETERMINATION ONLY MERE ACCUSATIONS AND INNUENDO>>>>>.

The preliminary indications according to the earlier summaries published
all point to a direct Syrian involvement

<<<<NO SUCH THING AS PRELIMINARY. THERE IS OR THERE IS NOT. AND
THERE IS NOT ANY INDICATION SYRIA IS INVOLVED OTHERWISE YOU WOULD SEE
THE UNITED STATES DRUMMING HATRED TO COLONIZE LEBANON>>>>>

do you know better than those investigators ?

<<<<NO INVESTIGATORS CAME WITH ANY ANSWER YET.>>>>>>

The investigation is not done. We will see when the final report comes
out.

But Syria has been the main
block for the United States of America and Israel to get Lebanon to be
a proxy for them. Now Syria is out. Hezbollah is the only force to
stop these colonial powers to take over Lebanon.

Hizbollah is nothing but an arm of the Iranian revolutionary guards

<<<<IT IS NOT. IT IS INDEPENDENT. EVEN IF IT IS, THEN IT IS DOING A
GREAT JOB PUTTING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL AT
BAY.>>>>>.

They only serve Iran's interests not lebanon

<<<<ACTUALLY IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. IRAN AND SYRIA ARE THE MAIN
BLOCKS TO TOTAL HEGEMONY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ISRAEL
OVER THE ARAB AND MUSLIM WORLDS.>>>>>>>>

These are small dictatorships trying to expand their regional
influence in the middle east while subjugating their peoples, stealing
their countries' resources and misusing their national treasures.

Of course, I would like Lebanon to be a country for the Lebanese. But
colonialism is forcing even the direction of negotiation to settle an
internal problem of Lebanon.
Believe me Iran and Syria are the main countries that are holding the
colonization of All Arab and Muslim countries at bay.

These two countries are not holding western colonization at bay, the
colonial era is long gone and the neo colonialism strategy is now economically
based.

<<<<<<NEO-COLONIALISM IS THE FINAL OBJECTIVE, THAT IS RIGHT. BUT TO
ACHIEVE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOUND ITSELF INVOLVED IN
ACTUAL OCCUPATION WARS. THEY TRY TO AVOID DIRECT WARS. THEY TRY
PROXY WARS AS IN SOMALIA AND SUDAN. THE QUESTION TO THE USA IS HOW TO
DEFEAT NATIONALISTS WITHOUT DIRECTLY GETTING INVOLVED IN A WAR. THAT
IS BECOMING HARD TO DO WITH THE NEW AGE OF INFORMATION.>>>>>>

If these countries want to stand in the face of globalism, the first
thing they should do is educate their people and improve their
internal economic opportunities.

<<<<THAT BY ITSELF IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRIES
ECONOMICALLY. FAILURE TO DO SO MANDATES ACTUAL MILITARY TAKEOVER AS
WAS DONE IN IRAQ. IRAQ WAR IS THE OIL, ONLY THE OIL AND NOTHING BUT
THE OIL.>>>>>

Unfortunately such goals interfere with the business of running a dictatorship

<<<<<<SOMETIMES BENEVOLENT DICTATORSHIPS IN POOR COUNTRIES HELP THE
COUNTRY AS WE SEE IN CUBA AND VENEZUELLA>>>,

There is no such thing as a benevolent dictatorship. Dictatorship is
just that. A way to control people and to benefit the ruling elite.

so you will never see these countries adopt
such economic policies, unless they come with no freedom, a la
china.Their sole aim is to protect
their undemocratic regimes in power

<<<SOME ARE. CHINA IS DOING VERY WELL AND MAY BECOME THE MOST
DOMINANT FORCE IN THE WORLD. SPEAKING OF WHO HELPS HEZBOLLAH, CHINA
AND RUSSIA ARE THE MOST HELP. READ MY ARTICLE ON STRATEGIES TO ATTACK
IRAN AND COUNTER STRATEGIES BY IRAN. CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE THE SUPPORT
FOR IRAN.>>>>>>

The United
States of America is doing its colonization through the indigenous
people and not as direct as that in Iraq and Afghanistan. Another
good example is the occupation of Somalia. USA sponsored Ethiopian
troops to do its bidding. In Darfur, the United States of America is
using African Muslims against the Sudanese government to do its
bidding. Beware of the big wolf!!

BASIL, YOU ARE ADVOCATING A USA POLICY OF COLONIZATION CONSCIENOUSLY
OR UNCONSCIESOULY. YOU SHOULD EVALUATE YOUR POSITION BEING WESTERN
EDUCATED. IN THE ABSENCE OF DIRECT CONFRONTATION FORCE, A RAG TAG SET
OF FORCES CAN DESTROY THE ENEMY. ENGLAND USED THAT TO DESTROY THE
ARMADA. PALESTINIANS ARE USING THAT TO FIGHT ISRAEL. HEZBOLLAH IS
USING THAT TO FIGHT USA AND ISRAEL. NATIONALIST IRAQIS ARE USING THAT
TO FIGHT COLONIZATION OF IRAQ. MY THEORY HAS BEEN, COLONIALISM CREATES
ITS ANTITHESIS. CONTINUOUS OPPRESSION BY COLONISTS MAY QUASH
RESISTANCE FOR A WHILE. BUT SYSTEMATIC RESISTANCE BY ADULTS AND
CHILDREN PERPETUATE RESISTANCE AND PLACE THE COLONIST AT BAY AND GET
IT READY FOR EITHER REMOVAL OR
DESTRUCTION.

I am advocating a policy of peace and freedom for all, nothing more
nothing less.

Basil-
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