reply to Tayyar movement

Dear Tayyar Team.

First please do me a favor and don't patronize me by talking about
emotion and propaganda because you are insulting my intelligence , I
wasn’t born today as we say in Lebanon and I lived there until 1985 ,.
I follow programs of the leaders and what they can bring to the
country but not their pictures.

Sure I have emotion and tears for respectable leaders killed in the
most barbarian uncivilized despicable ways , yes everyone that I know
here is sad not because of propagandas you are saying , but because
the killing is real ( maybe your leader need to watch the video how
the people were burning in the cars ) , and about your leader G Aoun ,
no I haven't see him shedding one tear over Tueni, Gemayel ,Ghanem ,
at the opposite , he's just concentrating on himself ,and playing
politics by not accusing anybody and especially Syria because the
killing suit him fine . Yes brave they’re are brave Hariri and
Joumblat and Hamedi and all who are not afraid to name the killers
when it is obvious who they are ,brave they are when they accuse the
evil assassin ruling Syria, brave they’re because they have changed
to the better and admitted their past mistakes , opposite to the
arrogant General who turned his back to his followers .

Killing a respectable and an Honorable educated MP is not an event
or sad event as you mentioned in your reply, it is an assassination
by a regime that your Leader G Aoun should know better than any one of
us , it is the regime who killed the hundreds of soldiers that were
still defending Mr.Aoun in Baabda in October 1990 even though the dear
general has long time ran away to hide in the French embassy and left
them to be slaughtered at the hands of the Syrian barbarians
assassins , he left without notifying them (just need to mention that
incident ).
In regard to the Sunni assassins in Nahr El Bared that you mentioned
in your reply , true they're Sunni but they're not Lebanese, and it
is not Seniora who let them in , it is the wide border with Syria and
for sure some few officers and traitors loyal to the current Syrian
agent president still residing or occupying Baabda , whoever letting
these Saudi/Somali/Tunisian scumbags inside Lebanon ,are the same
traitors that are letting arms to enter to the Farsi or Iranian
backed Shiite party called Hizbollah that his leader Mr. Nasrallah
mentioned last year that he wanted a strong state and after when this
is achieved he’ll give up his arms , well he keeps on arming himself
and in the same time he want a strong state , are you so blind or just
playing stupid or just another opportunistic person waiting for a
position in the future government when Aoun become president ( to
just remind you that Hizbollah wasn't a party founded in Lebanon, and
has no Lebanese agenda to this day , it was established by Rafsanjani
in Iran, Nissrallah is just the representative of the party in
Lebanon),also just to remind you that Hizbollah wanted to establish an
Islamic state in Lebanon in 1982-1983, it was stated in his
constitution and still exist there secretly., well good for
Nasrallah , at least he takes good care of his Shiite
brothers ,opposite to the GMA that so far brought to the Christians
only misery, immigration and trying to bring us more misery if we
don’t put him in the palace.

The Lebanese army did its duty in Nahr EL Bared for once and cleaned
the camp, please don't play dumb and questions who let the terrorists
in Nahr el Bared, because we know for sure that the scumbag Absi was
in Syria I guess you know or your leader should know better ,please
go ask your general , ask him who let the Palestinian get armed in
the 60's and 70's , even himself knew and did nothing back then, the
whole army stood and watch because they’re hopeless and divided .
There is no need to question who let all garbage in Lebanon, the
country since the 60 's 70's is an open field and Aoun knows better
what kind of army we had , isn't the army who watched the Palestinian
getting armed and did nothing , isn't this army that split in 1975 and
himself joined the Christian fighters and helped in capturing Tal-El
Zaatar camp , if there was an army back then the Christians wouldn't
need to defend themselves, I am not going to go further ,but let me
ask you a questions, what happened suddenly after the Syrian withdrew
that the General distanced himself from the people who were with him,
isn't that great the Sunni and Druze came to a stage where they want
the Syrians out of Lebanon!!!, and they want a diplomatic relation
with the terrorist state named Syria ? isn't that a victory for the
Christians after a long struggle that lasted since 1920 the day when
the Grand Liban was created , isn't that a victory for Bashir and
Camille and all defender of the land of the Cedars that the Muslim
finally said the flag color of Lebanon is 2 horizontal red line ,one
on top and one on bottom and white in the middle and the Cedar Tree is
the center, and no longer is Nasser Egypt or Palestinian flag are
the flags of Lebanon , all country was united after the assassination
of the great PM Hariri by Bashar el Assad , thanks to the sacrifice
off Hariri that GMA can step in Lebanon , and here we go few months
after that , suddenly GMA got upset and switched his mood for no
particular or obvious reason and distanced himself from the crowd ,
could you ask him why ,until now he doesn’t give an answer, why Hariri
and Joumblat plus many others are not good for him .

I can only guess why, the only apparent reason for the General to
distance himself was the fact that he knew that no one is crazy
enough to vote for him as president, and yes he shouldn't be a
president!!!, and I tell you why , when I visited Lebanon in then 90's
my dear friend in the army and he is an honorable high ranked and
respectable army person )( what he said to me is a fact that many in
the army witness it ) , told me they were ordered by G Aoun
commanders in the "Great Battle" with the Lebanese forces in 1990 to
open the road of Bteghrine to Bikfaya and receive the help from
Hobeika who was bringing arms from the Syrians and Fuels to give to
Aoun, this is right after Maaraket al tahrir against Syria , this is
how far the General went on the Kill, destroying Keliaat (until now
still not built)a beautiful Christian town , and for what reasons? you
tell me, isn't him that he said he will shell Damascus few months
before, how you could vote for such a loser, just tell me how. Bashir
was hot headed but he was balanced, I am not crazy about Geagea but he
paid the price in jail and that's enough leave him alone.
Camille Chamoun avoided the fight with Bashir in 1980 and gave up his
party 1980 in order not to weaken the Christians, because he knew that
the assassins in Syria and their allies in Lebanon are waiting for
such opportunity to enter Baabda.

Telling me that many has interests other than Syria in the killing is
playing word games, please I don’t need GMA to tell me who can benefit
and not from the killing,, I could see clearly Syria the killer and #
1 benefiting from the chaos, the other party’s who are benefiting are
Hizbollah(Iran) and the Tanya , for Aoun if he’s not going to be
president , let Lebanon stay without one, let the killing continues.
You can tell from the way he say sorry for the assassination on TV,
even he can’t act ,the word sorry is coming from his lips but deep
inside he doesn’t give a dam .

About the General vulgarity lately , are you really convinced when you
tell me that he 's talking in the style the people want to hear, is
that the style you like yourself ?, did Bashir use expression below
the belt ? excuse me , Lebanese people in majority are literate people
who live in democracy inside and abroad , people have BA 's and
PhD’s , and no one accept that kind of talk he’s using you can speak
for yourself and don’t insult other Lebanese, is this is the style
that led his followers in France to split from him and establish a
new party .Please don't be afraid of him and you don't need to defend
him blindly, his style is a dictator style , and believe me he will be
the worst president that Lebanon will have, a real dictator , you must
be deaf and blind not to see what others are seeing in him. I am
telling you the truth every army person will have tendency in general
for dictatorship, the proof is what happened in 1988,Dear Aoun was
suppose to be a PM of a transitional government ( as the Lebanese
constitution is clear) just to elect a president ,but he saw himself
up and wanted to stay , what he did was a coup d'etat .( Amin Gemayel
is responsible also as he was suppose to make sure a president is
elected 3 months before he leaves , we would have avoided the
craziness that followed and the Syrian would have never landed in
Baabda ).
In 1988 he opened the war against Syria not to attack Syria ( he’s an
army general and knows well that Syria is capable of wiping him
out ) , he opened the war because Syria said no to him as president
( Syrian are not idiots , they knew what type of destruction he will
bring if they say no to him , because they knew how hungry he is to be
president, so Hafez played him out like a yoyo to finish with the
Christian Lebanese once for all ) he sent many envoys to the Syrians
up to the last minute before he runaway to have them accepting
him ,please refer to the documentary "The Lebanese war" 15 episodes
video made by the Jazira,watch # 14 and 15,all Lebanese should watch
this Video and know the truth about him) .

Harb El Tahrir was mainly to fool the world , extend his time in the
palace and attract the Christians Lebanese, who sometimes are so
stupid and like to follow a person who wear an army suit ( God rest
his soul Camille Chamoun was a person who believed in Freedom and
democracy he had always his fear for Lebanon to become a dictatorship
if an army general get elected as president)
During harb el tahrir the Lebanese forces helped him a lot by
shelling souk el harb , otherwise he would have been overrun by the
Druze and Syrians, but he returned the favor by killing them once the
war stopped. The Lebanese forces found out he was not balanced and
decided to let the election happen and Mouawad was elected , Aoun was
suppose to step down, that’s what the constitution dictate ,this is
not Syria, Iraq or Egypt. Look at lahoud ( this great swimmer in
Baabda) and you can see similar characteristics, an ignorant who
have no education in law trying to say the current government is not
legitimate because few MP that take orders from Iran / Syria
resigned.

later the American told him we have Iraq invading Kuwait so cool down
(or buzz off )and don't irritate Syria, but he didn't give a dam , and
forced the US to brake the red light imposed on Syria not to cross to
Baabda and gave the green light to Syria just to finish with his
adventures and enter Baabda .Lebanese people paid the price. Between
1988 and 1991 over 125000 Christians immigrated according to several
statistics taken, the highest level since 1975 war, here in Canada we
couldn't believe how many suddenly arrived, the church suddenly was
full, it was 1/2 empty before 1988.


Clearly I don't understand what's called "the understanding with Mr.
Nasrallah" , what's in common between him and Aoun, Nassrallah doesn't
give a dam about Lebanon generally speaking ,he have a big area of
control and can occupy by force if he wants several areas , I mean
just look what his party did to central Beirut, paralysing it ,
people losing their jobs , and why because in general it is not
affecting the Shiite community economy, (the Shiite never gained much
from Downtown economy first of all It is mainly a Sunni based
business and secondly , Christian ) intimidating everyone, does Mr.
Aoun know or actually he should know well that the Lebanese law
requires that Hizbollaf must have a permit for manifestation with
start and finish date and with the name of the street they are are
going to pass by, actually there is no law on the face of the earth
that allow any citizens of a country to camp indefinitely in “Paris”
or any downtown and occupy it forever, this is intimidation and first
step to attack and cease the government . Mr. Nasrallah knows well no
one want to venture and fight with his people downtown especially the
army , as the dear army is a watchdog for event most of the time ,
did the general spoke or dared to speak that about the business men
that lost their business in the capital , did he show sympathy , did
he try to convince his partner to ease it little, how Nasrallah want a
powerful state and everyday he intimidate the army and politicians by
keeping his campers in Beirut ,you know why Aoun is silent because he
want Nasrallah to attack the parliament if he’s not going to be the
president,let Hizbollah burn it with the MP inside , who gives a
*** , Aoun can always runaway to Paris or maybe Syria this time,but
Nasrallah will not do it for Aoun eyes believe me.

I have respect to Nasrallah for sure, his party never kidnapped and
killed anyone because he is Christian or Kurdish or whatever , fought
for his community , he re-built and apologized for his mistakes , in
general he is a good man and maybe if he wasn’t so attached to Iran
and maybe Syria , he would be one of the greatest leader that
Lebanon had , he is opposite to GMA who never apologized for his
wrongdoing to the Christians specifically ( because he’s perfect man
with no doubt) and never reflected on his years back, I mean for him
forget Charles Malek, we have Aoun now:)) what a joke !!!, how the
Christians could accept such clown, I mean the Sheik Jozo last week
told the Maronite to elect a respectful president and not a crazy man
in rderence to G Aoun , as he said we all knew what he did in
1988-1990, no one need need a crazy men in Baabda !! I mean Leaders
rre using the word “ crazy “ just listen and open your eyes , people
think that he’s mentally disturbed .

Nasrallah he’s taking care of his community and preparing the way to
march on Jerusalem , if Hizbollah believe in Lebanon and the
government , why they don’t return the occupied and stolen Christian
areas in southern suburbs especially the Christian land in Haret
Hreik where Mr. Aoun is from. Is the General capable to bring the land
to its people in the southern suburbs , Is the general if elected is
capable to have the Mullah pay their electric /phone bills and stop
stealing the money from the government and ordinary Christians/Sunni
and Druze who pay their bills since the creation of Lebanon. Let me
point out to you that there is no Sunni currently who occupy a
Christian land, because they truly follow their religion and they
don’t steal.

GMA is talking about the right to return for Christians to the Chouf
in order to score cheap point with the Christians and attacking
Joumblat , how about the Shiite occupation of Christian land!, at
least the Druze have a reason to occupy , in a sense they were
attacked in 1982 by the Christians, but what the Christians did to the
Shiite in southern suburbs in 1975? in 1975 the Shiite helped the
Palestinian to massacre the Christians in Bekaa valley and in southern
suburbs and in Nabaa , we all remember Ali Safouan and Amal and Co
and how the land were stolen from Christians all over the southern
suburbs.

Believe me . he'll never be a president, not in this lifetime ,
he'll try his best and maybe cause few more death, and maybe at his
hands Lebanon will cease to exist and we'll not have a Christian
president anymore, but he will not see it, at his hands many were
killed by the Syrians, soldiers and civilians, An - Nahar article
stated few weeks ago how the Syrian Intelligence entered the ministry
of defense in Oct 1990 and ceased all files that the 2eme bureau had
accumulated for years ,he didn’t even have the decency once he knew
the Syrians are coming to capture him to warn the army to take all
files out of the ministry, this is how scared he was.

I heard him last night (or the other night) saying we need a real men
to be a president (basta talk style), since when the manhood is
measured by the vulgarity of the tongue! I believe he lived in France
enough and ate Chateaubriand and drank the best wine with the wealth
he accumulated from donations during the famous 2 years , and he saw
France , the nation that brought freedom to the people of all
world ,well living in France should have had a good influence on him
but unfortunately it seems he came back worst , maybe he should have
went out more and read more during his exile time, but to our misery
it seems he is more impressed with the Syrian regime and Hizbollah .

You make me really laugh when you say weak president ,you think
screaming and shouting and being vulgar make a tough president, and to
end this reply I need to emphasize that the questions remains as
why he didn't tell the army he's running away in 1990, ,he should have
died in the palace as a revolutionary and not be a runaway prime
minister, but as I said he's not tough ,not to say when the sword came
to his neck he runaway, or as the American say when the going get
thought the tough stay and face it , but unfortunately he runaway
( same as Saddam went to hide below in the hole underground ) , and
now he want to show us that he’s the savior , don't be fooled with
this type of men, they’re opportunistic and deceivers.

He should be tried for treason as he broke the constitution and caused
civil war and used heavy tank and artillery against buildings and
streets against civilians same as Hafez did to Hama and declared war
on Syria without having any official entitlement to do so in
1988-1999, and caused president Mouawad death by refusing to leave
the presidential palace.
The history will have no pity on him and it will be written that the
Syrians entered Baabda in his time and hopefully the chapter will not
continue on to mention that he was the man who caused the Christian to
lose the presidency as his allies Hizbollah are hoping to do next
Tuesday. Let’s hope Boutros Harb, Nasib lahoud ,Robert Ghanem or Nayla
Mouawad or any respectable ,educated non military lead Lebanon for the
next 7 years Inch Allah.

PS:

Read Sunday 9-23-07 article in An-Nahar for Johnny Abdo the previous
Intelligence President, that I just read , this prove what I’ve told
you in the first e-mail that Aoun is giving the green light for the
killing ,not only me saying that but the smartest people in Lebanon ,
the whole educated decent people in Lebanon knows that.
SO read below some excerpts from the article

الاستحقاق"، موجها الاتهام الى "البعض بأنه يريد ارجاع الوصاية السورية
الى لبنان".
وقال ان "النظام السوري يتكل على انه قادر على متابعة مخططه، لأن هناك من
يدافع عنه كالتيار الوطني الحر وحزب الله وغيرهما".
Lebanese In Canada

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Dear Lebanese in Canada,
First of all we would like to thank you for your mail and the time you
gave our site.

We understand your indignation. It is normal in times of crisis,
especially after having had so many sad events, so many victims and
especially so much mutual hatred propaganda, that people have strong
feeling to and against others, and most importantly it is normal to
feel the need to blame someone.

GMA and FPM do not believe that Syria is innocent nor that other
countries are innocent. To us, there are many who can benefit from
these murders, including Syria to destabilize the situation in
Lebanon, but also Israel and the US for other reasons.

You know, every time I hear someone talking about the Chiite Mullahs,
it makes me smile. People fear of the country becoming one of these
days, of course not in the near future, a Shiite country or led by
Shiites. What they fail to see is that the imminent danger that is
ALREADY here is the danger of those Sunni extremists that blow
themselves and do not differentiate when killing between Christian or
Muslim. What about this dear friend, don’t they scare you? Don’t you
wonder how did these terrorists get nurtured and grow so strong and so
big in Lebanon under the nose of the government?

You also talk about Christians and their power. Do you think that now,
under the Syrian election law that was so gracefully bestowed on us,
the Christians have power? Do you see the Christian ministers in the
actual government having power? If you do, then you are missing
something. Now do you think that electing a president that will serve
Hariri and Saudi Arabia’s interests will give Christians power? You
need to understand that actual power was taken from the Christians
back in 1990 when Taef was agreed upon by unfortunately some of those
who call themselves keen on the Christians interests. Today, we are
fighting to retain the LITTLE that is left from the Christian power,
that is, if any remains.
How can you accept to have a weak president, a president that does not
actually represent Christians (unless you do not agree that GMA
represents the majority of Christians then in this case you should
call for early elections), a president that have failed in his
district in parliament elections for example, when you have a strong
Sunni as PM and a strong Chiite as Speaker of the house. Do you think
this is the way to restore the Christians power?

By the way, regarding your claim that GMA wants the presidency more
than anything else, there is no need to remind you that it was made
clear to GMA that he could be much closer to the presidency if he
gives up his understanding with HA. So if all what GMA wanted is to
become president, he would have easily gotten the chair by giving up
being in the opposition.

We won’t answer the educational level issue, it is irrelevant to say
the least.

As for the vulgar thing, if you consider that talking what the people
think, speaking people’s minds, worries and fears, naming things by
their names, not being diplomatic for the sake of lying, then, if this
is vulgar, we love vulgar.

Again thank you for your mail and feel free to write us with any
further concerns.
Best regards
tayyar.org team

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