Re: The Knife in the Back

josephmouhanna@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
[...]
This is not an idea, this is reality. When Syria was in Lebanon,
Hezballah was under control. When Syria got out, its leadership started
promoting the idea that only Syria can control Hezballah. Hezballah
acted up on queu. What do you call that?

Explain "under control". They were allies is more like it. Do you think
Syria would have been able to disarm Hezbollah? Moreover, they never
meddled in one another's affairs.

This is not a call to bring Syria or Iran back in, it's a call to i)
stop pretending;

They already did when Nasrallah participated in the National Dialogue.

ii) stop calling anyone who asks for Hezballah
accountability a player for Israel;

Asking for Hezbollah's accountability must not be combined with an
external agenda or a "New Middle East".

iii) take our heads out of the sand
(somewhat redundant with i); insist that Syria and Iran *stay* out of
Lebanese affairs.

Totally in agreement here.

[...]
Really, then explain why they were under control when Syria was in
Lebanon? explain their March 8 march.

Saving face for their allies since Lebanon was divided. The March 14
*march* (and not politicians) changed that. It showed Hezbollah that
the Lebanese people are united against Syria.
(Now here's a tricky question: why do many accept Jumblatt's sudden
change of heart against Syria, and disbelieve that Nasrallah has become
nationalistic without childishly opposing Syria?)

[...]
I am pointing to what *can* be done. What *can* be done is for Lebanon
to accept an immediate cessation of hostilities and do what it *can* to
recover.

An immediate cessation of hostilities is not a unilateral decision.
When such decision comes alone, it will be accepted. If it includes
concessions and risks than it's only normal to ask for revision.

[...]
Not to be argumentative here, or provide cover for Israel's savagery,
but did you forgot any events in this sequence?

You mean the history of Hezbollah vs. Israel? It all depends on which
starting point is more objective. Let's add a new item to the former
list: Hezbollah said the Lebanese Army will be welcome in the South.
Consequence: the Israelis changed the key figure in this war and
decided to amplify their terrestrial invasion.

[...]
I am a bit confused here. What do you call negotiations with a gun
pointed to your head? some might call it imposing terms. Kind of like
the *negotiations* between the US and Japan at the end of WWII, or the
*negotiations* Israel puts us through every once in a while.

Hezbollah never pointed a gun inside Lebanon. Proof is, they didn't
reach an agreement and Hezbollah tried to resolve its demands by
itself. The rest of the Lebanese State was forced into this conflict
through Israel's indiscriminate attacks.

[...]
OK, so you subscribe to the necon/Bush theory of "if you're not with
me, then you're against me". This insinuation does not work on me.
Opposing Hezballah is not equivalent to buying into Israel's
propaganda, and that is the argument of those who only want a single
point of view out there.

I'm not accusing you of being against "me". I'm just trying to defend
the other point of view where Hezbollah is an independent Lebanese
resistance movement (with regional alliances) and where the Lebanese
people should stand by it till we're on our own before proceeding to
accountability.
It just happens that the Israeli propaganda goes in the same line with
your reasoning - which doesn't imply you bought into theirs, but it's
possible that they're profiting from such posture assumed by many
Diaspora Lebanese. When they publicly state that they and the hostage
Lebanese people have been subject to Hezbollah's actions, my reaction
is that the Israelis are fomenting division within Lebanon. This is
unacceptable to me and I will oppose anybody who preaches the same
tale. Hezbollah is our problem as Lebanese. Including any foreign party
in any way is objectionable.

DrSMITH.

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