Re: candy store in beirut

very lastly as far as sluts go you should walk past an english pub on a
friday and observe a little. then you will see what animals these
engish are. to illustrate a point, unlike holland (holland! its all
relative isnt it?) there are no brothels in england. no economic. they
wouldnt make any money. an english female is by definition a whore in
any case(,an english male a pedophile. england is the only country in
the world where the common refrain is not "wait until your father gets
home" but "wait until your mother leaves home" I am not exagerating) .
why pay for something when you can get it for free??

on this point, I rest my case.

Im stranded in the uk, and I know these ppl very well. desperate to
leave for a safer country.

refugeedeveloper@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Joseph Mouhanna wrote:
> > <refugeedeveloper@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:1124471745.669039.142750@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [.....................]
> > >
> > >> You keep saying this, but you offer no proof,
> > >
> > > No I have no proof, but am a victim of crime never the less.
> >
> > It's very simple: if you cannot prove it, it did not happen.
> Not quite.
>
> > You claim to
> > have been in jails in France, the UK, Switzerland, Germany, Austria,
> > Holland?, Eastern Europe,
> I was detained twice in Slovenia and Munich. In Munich I was taken to
> the police station (which I went to voluntarily) for "half an hour"
> midnight munich.
> I was beaten up there and put in prison for 5 minutes. I did not
> retaliate there were two of them there.
> All my fellow prisoners were police. my cell mate yelled over the wall
> "hes done nothing wrong" then he turned round and said "theyll put you
> in prison for 4 yrs and after that youll be finished!!!" I dont quite
> know how to interpret this. I was walking the streets of europe as a
> tramp refugee for 3 yrs, and was unemployed for 4, myh career has ended
> and I know earn a fraction of what I used to earn. I presume this is
> what he meant. The african police said "surely what we did to you cant
> compare to what the germans did to you" I have no idea what this
> statement was meant to mean.
>
> In Slovenia I was put in prison for 4 days for invalid passport -- my
> passport was checked on the border and I was allowed into Slovenia
> legally by slovenian police. Inside Slovenia my passport was rechecked
> and declared invalid and I was put in prison for 4 days. 4 dahys became
> 14. On day 7 I went on hungerstrike on day 14 they let me out I stayed
> in a hotel no hostels in llubjiana until my passport was sorted out. my
> own money having finished, my brother lent me money. I entered Slovenia
> in desperation I couldnt get a job or lawyer in Italy or any other
> country in europe. I entered a "legal" center in Milan the "legal help"
> there said "you live until you die for you there is time" the woman
> with him Id met in Vienna. At this point I left the legal center.
>
>
>
> > etc. that you've been denied work in Canada, that
> I was jobless from 1999 until 2004 more or less. I applied for 4000
> jobs - 2000 by email 2000 by personal phone calls, visits to agencies,
> restaurants etc.
>
> I was told over the phone "its to teach you a lesson" and in Vienna man
> told me "its the ministry of the interior and theyre mobbing you" apart
> from anything else it made me destitute. my own money finished in
> canada and I had borrow money, from my brother. I would spend half the
> money on internet and phone (applying for work. www.jobserve.com should
> have plenty of references from internet stations in Rome and Milan, and
> I was a well known figure at the Iranian restaurants in Rome. I tried
> ALL non German restaurants in Vienna Pizzerias, Lebanese restaurants
> etc etc) and Id spend half the week sleeping in parks as a result.
>
>
>
> > you've been abused in Italy (did I miss any place?),
> I was physically tortured in Paris. I wont go into detail. I was beaten
> up by police in Germany. I was tortured psychologically by military
> personell in Paris after I refused to leave(I had no money to leave I
> was told to return to uk). Also in Geneva Frankfurt Vienna London. In
> Rome african guy (I was trying to get a job from him) said in Rome
> underground "youre under sep11 investigation you cant leave" yr 2001.
> In Geneva "we want you to tell us everything you know" and in Vienna
> internet cafe administrator "You know were not going to let you take
> this to court" In Italy except for two ocassions the police did not
> play mind games with me but the simple fact that I was stuck by myself
> wo a job(4000 job applications) -- after a while you give up looking
> for work -- and nothing to do and no one to talk to in a country whos
> language I dont speak except think about my problems or a lawyer whod
> help me get the facts and a level of psychological closure itself put
> me under horrendous psychological pressure. It is not possible to
> describe the hell I was put through, and I can point fingers if it gets
> to court ever.
>
> The english police were very clever they let european military do their
> dirty work for them
>
>
>
> > yet, you cannot provide proof,
> No I have no proof
>
> >much less any indication why all these countries would have anything
> > against you.
> I can only go by what Ive been told and what Ive been put through.
> 'Swiss embassy' informed me "MI5" was involved in t his. english ***
> in rome "army not the people" guy in ottowa said "maybe it should come
> out the job of the police is not to harass people" canada was a nice
> country. Im sorry they dont like ppl like me. Id have stayed if I
> could. security official in geneva "you get a job in a hotel and you
> take your case [to a military tribunal]" my flatmate informed me "you
> dont know how many ppl want you to dissappear. its more than one
> problem." and woman in Geneva said something like [if there is a big
> mess its my fault]. The police attempted to bribe me a few times in
> ABNAMROSE BANK HOLlAND "will moneey do?" and in prison in Slovenia
> "lets discuss money" at which point I went on hungerstrike. In essex
> mcdonalds where I was working I said so and so knew about this the 2
> guys walked out one of them turned round to me and said "do you want to
> kill all of them?" my mother said "if we die [] will not survive" and
> "if [] is sent to Pakistan he will not survive" I was born into the
> Bahai community, of which there are legal instances in Pakistan and
> Lebanon, but not in Iran, where the Bahai community is repressed. In
> Vienna Caritas woman said "they put electrodes on your brain" and in
> London "this is a country of democracy you will lose your intelligence
> slowly" and "from high to normal"
>
>
>
>
> > For argument's sake, let's say you did travel to all these countries.
> I did
>
> > In that case, you would have needed a valid passport *and* a visa, else no one
> > would have allowed you to board a flight going into these countries, and
> > there are quite a few of them on two different continents.
>
> I had uk passports 6 of them. 3 were stolen 3 confiscated by police. I
> tried to leave the uk last yr they wouldnt give me a passport. all the
> money Id worked so hard to save finished. I was about to hand out
> leaflets in london "your garbage of a police have their heads up each
> others butts" If I cant leave this country I will hand out leaflets
> like that, and if they arrest me Ill go on hungerstrike. there must be
> a way to a safe and honest country for me.
>
>
>
> >
> > For argument's sake also, let's say that you're living and working now in
> > the UK, you surely have a valid visa, don't you?
>
> I was deported to the uk. In Vienna the guy said "we sacrificed you"
> and they bought me a plane ticket and sent me back to the UK. he was
> wearing all black and was quite dark and spoke in Persian, so I presume
> he was Iranian.
>
>
> > Your posts also show what
> > an ungrateful parasite you are.
>
> I find it shamefull that I have to live and work amongst ppl who have
> harme me so much. I also find these people -- this is an Arabic word --
> "Najest" to me personally.
>
> > You label Englishwomen as whores,
> they are. english women --excuse me I dont wish to swear on SCL-- are
> the biggest whores in west europe. They did a survey they found in the
> city of Liverpool 19% of children had fathers other than that
> registered on their birth certificates -- which means their mammas were
> messing behind their pappas backs.
> the brittish have a culture of prostitution.
> This segment is off topic and I shall stop here.
>
>
>
> > yet you
> > expect the British to take care of you,
>
> haha in Rome I applief for work in an Iranian restaurant. the guy said
> yes then he said no then he said he had a job handing lealflets in the
> street. So I said okay Ill take that job then he said he didnt have
> that job either. I applied for 4000 jobs.
>
>
> and then you come to SCL asking for
> > advice on how to apply for work in Lebanon.
> as Im a destitute unfortunate person whos been harmed very badly with
> no money I must work to pay for room board and lawyer. fairly
> straightforward. hahaha.
>
>
>
> What's your next move, go to
> > Lebanon and then call Lebanese women whores?
> you wish.
> A logical person has reason for any action he takes.
> But my [] sunday school teacher was from Lebanon :-0). And I had a
> lebanese fellow student at university. My roommate was from Kuwait
> which is a bit better :0)
>
>
> >
> > >>nor do you indicate why anyone
> > >> in Western Europe would give a rat's ass about you.
> Countries are governed by laws and the army had no right to harm ppl.
> So when I am in west european soil I have RIGHTS to legal help to
> employment and to a fair deal which must be respected.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > and I dont really know to be honest. I can only go by (1)What has
> > > happened to me
> >
> > You've yet to prove this.
> >
> > > and (2)what Ive been told. my flat mate told me "its
> > > more than one problem" and internet discussionwise I should "stick to
> > > cookery discussions" next time.
> >
> > Please, you may be an idiot who expects people to feed and take care of him,
> > but other people are not.
> You wish.
> I applied for 4000 jobs. The security official I spoke to laughed and
> called me 'professor'. I was applying for dishwashing jobs. not quite
> proffessoruh uh,uh.
>
>
>
>
> > >>This is as *crazy* as
> > >> your claim that British authorities monitor every single person. Do you
> > >> understand how *crazy* that sounds.
> > >
> > > I never claimed anything like the above.
> >
> > Really. Here's a quote from your May 22, 2005 post to SCL: "The house of
> > every foreigner in the UK is under surveillance."
>
> Not quite. I was TOLD the house of every foreighner in the UK is under
> surveillance. Slight difference
>
> >
>
> > You claim ignorance, and that you believe what people
> > tell you. This works both you,
>
> No actually. I dont know what to believe so I presume what ppl have
> told me have a possibility of truth to it. My belief system is a
> (fuzzy) logical one.
>
> > and in that case, you'd have to believe that
> > Bush was acting in good faith when he believed the WMD reports, even though
> > they proved to be false.
>
> I think the amount of proof required for military action must be
> extremely high.#
>
>
>
>
> For someone who used the expression (as part of
> > this thread) "having someone's head up their ***", you seem to be very
> > familiar with the concept of gullibility, so spare us and don't insult
> > people's intelligence.
>
> No actually. as I said my belief system is composed of possibilities.If
> I had my head up anyones *** my belief system would consist of
> certainties. Whereas you ppl who back illegal kidnapping and internment
> of ppl in prisons such as guantanomobay against values of decency and
> common sense do have your heads up someones ***. The local propoganda
> outlet in your area (fox news? cnn?) and ultimately george bushes.
>
>
>
> > This is not the point. You cited two reasons where people can be arrested,
> > and my reply was to prove that no International laws were violated and that
> > the governemnts of the countries were the arrests took place allowed the
> > transfer of prisoners to Gitmo.
>
> well whilst Im not an expert in international law it seems to me
> commonsensical that the only police forces which have a legal case for
> detaining criminal suspects are those where the crime took place, and
> the homecountry of the victims. The US guantanomo bay prison falls into
> neither category and as therefore the us military andany government
> which colluded with them are guilty of illegal kidnapping and detaining
> of these unfortunate ppl.
>
>
>
>
>
> > want to argue human rights, then I invite you to prove that Muslims have
> > less rights in Western Europe or in the US than they do in *any* single
> > country that procalims itslef to be Muslim. This is a challenge.
> > [................]
>
> The level and nature of rights in the Islamic world is irrelevent to
> the US military committing military crime.
>
> > > If I hadnt been deported to the UK Id have been speaking other
> > > languages by now.
> >
> > By all means, go somewhere else. My guess is that you're such a parasite no
> > one is willing to take you in.
> you wish
>
> I can work 60 hours a week so long as the work isnt to backbreaking or
> monotonous.
> I can:
> work as an It developer
> as an English teacher
> as a lab technician (english speaking hospital for the moment only)
> hotel employee
> restaurant employeee
> leaflet giver
> postman
> shop employee
> ice skating rink ticket seller
>
> etc.
> I applied for 4000 jobs unsucessfully. It is so frustrating to get up
> every day applying for work knowing the results will be fruitless
>
>
> Here's simple proof that 1) the British are
> > bending over backward to support your ignorant self;
> they can bend forward, but for their own. I just need a ticket to a
> nice country. I will have saved about £1000 in 2 months. Cest
> sufficient.
>
>
> 2) that no one is after you:
> the guy in Ottowa said "MI5 put you on target" and I recieved an email
> 1998 "the other police department wont help you keep your mouth shut"
> the woman in ottowa said "we had a problem we didnt know how to attack
> it" and the *** in the police station in walthamstow in London said
> "do you know WHO whas following you? we had a problem we DEALT WITH IT
> VERY WELL YOU HAVE LOTS OF FREE TIME NOW" (I was handing out leaflets
> in the street with my story on it.)
>
>
> >If you were under surveillance,
> woman in Ottowa said "SIR!!!!! do you know why the police had you
> under surveillance? its because your Iranian" word for word.
>
>
>
>
> >and the British are looking for an
> > excuse to abuse you, don't you think that they would react to you calling
> > *every* British woman a whore?
>
> the police have destroyed my career, my mind, my life, and if what Ive
> been told is correct a few other things. Operation successfull.
>
> > > The Brittish are a nation of garbage. Their police are rich and
> > > sophisticated, but they are garbage just the same. I have the right not
> > > to live here. Geneva convention on the right of displaced people, which
> > > means ppl like me have the right to safe passage to safe territorry.
> >
> > You have a right? refugee rights were granted by the same countries you're
> > villifying on SCL.
> >
> > >> I guess that
> > >> the WTC, the Pentagon, the Embasies in Kenya and Tanzania, the USS Cole,
> > >> etc. are all figments of my imagination. The Taliban is also a figment of
> > >> my
> > >> imagination. I wonder who's head is stuck up his ***.
> > >
> > > No these incidents are not a figment of your imagination. Youre like
> > > me, not delusional!!!!!!! However the authorities in Kenya Tanzania Im
> > > sure are quite capable of dealing with crimes which take place within
> > > their jurisdiction and therefore there is no need for their citizens to
> > > be kidnapped to your guantanomo bay. read it slowly mate.
> >
> > Really? who kidpanned their citizens? Provide a single name.
>
> I dont have to. Anyone in Guantanomo bay, unless there voluntarily, or
> taken to custody from US soil, is a victim of kidnapping. simple end of
> story.
>
> >
> > > Its called
> > > KIDNAPPING. or rather MANNAPPING. its an utter disgrace and proof of US
> > > hegonomy over world affairs that a prison called guantanomo bay
> > > actually fuckin exists.
> >
> > Actually, you have yet to provide any proof that anyone was kidpanned and
> > brought to Guantanamo.
>
> See previous comment amigo.
>
> >
> > >> Do you know any people who were kidnapped from Egypt and Lebanon?
> > >
> > > I know that every member of Guantanomo Bay prison is a kidnapping
> > > victim.
> >
> > But we're already *certain* that what *you* know is fiction, so let's switch
> > back to reality, not some fantasy of yours. Can you provide proof that
> > Lebanese and Egyptians were kidnapped and are in Guantanamo?
>
> See previous comment amigo.
>
> > >> You may also note that the massacre of 9/11 was neither
> > >> committed by the Pentagon nor by the Mossad. It was committed by Arab
> > >> psycopaths, who give Islam a bad name
> > >
> > > They are responsible for many other massacres.
> >
> > We're talking about the WTC here.
>
> Im talking about others also.
>
> >
> > > I believe the UN sansctions engineered by Madeleine Allbright of the US
> > > were responsible for the deaths of 100 000 Iraqi children. thats a lot
> > > of dead children.
> >
> > Actually, Saddam Hussein was responsible for the deaths of millions of
> > Iraqis, children included. The post war tally of his (and his family's)
> > extravagance, to the tune of Billions of Dollars, proves that there was
> > plenty of money to feed the people of Iraq and provide medical care. He
> > simply used that money for himself. You do know all this, don't you?
>
> Im talking about UN sanctioned by Madeleine Allbright which lead to
> death of 100 000 Iraqi children, in an oil rich country. life is the
> greatest gift we have.
>
>
> >
> > >>(as you do)
> > > Get your facts right mate. Im not a muslim. I do come from a muslim
> > > culture however.
> >
> > I don't know what you are, but I said that your claims give Muslims a bad
> > name. You don't have to be Muslim to do that.
>
> how?
>
> >
> > >>The US did not act alone in Afghanistan,
> > >> and it acted as part of a broad international colation that included
> > >> Canada,
> > >> France and a number of European nations, to remove the Taliban regime
> > >> which
> > >> was spreading terror across the world, and destroying the people of
> > >> Afghanistan.
> > >
> > > So what?
> >
> > Just responding to your ignorant claim that the US was acting alone.
>
> What I am saying is that although there are prisons worse than
> guantanomo Bay in lots and lots of countries, tacit acceptance of
> guantanomo bay and collaboratio wrt above is an utter fuckin disgrace
> and proof of us hegemony in world politics. Power corrupts. total power
> corrupts totally.
>
>
> > >> Those who refuse due process of the law do not deserve due process of the
> > >> law.
> > >
> > > Rubbish. IF this was so wed be back to hanging criminals without a
> > > court case.
> >
> > That's actually what the Taliban were doing. The soccer stadium was turned
> > into a goulish execution stadium.
> As I said the Taliban have a fine sense of due process and law.
> although rather medieval in its scope. all those they executed were
> "tried" first.
>
>
> > In Western countries however, due process
> > of law is still practiced, so you don't have anything to worry about.
>
> Not quite. Guantanomo Bay. The UK anti terror legislation is heading
> that way also. In the UK there are I think 10 ppl detained at the home
> secretaries behest (grace?)
>
> > >>The Taliban neither accepted the due process of the law, nor did they
> > >>extend it to their victims.
>
> and a few other mass murderers.
>
> > >
> > > Again Rubbish. The talibans had a very fine and well developed sense
> > > of the due process of law, developed in Madrassahs in Pakistan and
> > > elsewhere.
> >
> > Rubbish? Why don't you expand on the well developed sense of the due process
> > that the Taliban practiced? Why don't you re-examine all the public
> > executions, destruction of history, abuse of women, forbidding women from
> > getting an education or employment, banning of music.
>
> Oh the taliban were idiots and theyve gone. but youre guantanomo bay
> and pentagon officials are evil.
>
> > >>We however are offering it to them, despite all the sensationalism
> > >> >surrounding Guantanamo.
> > >
> > > Thats precisely what you are NOT offering them by sending them to
> > > Guantanomo Bay prison, where these unfortunate people are kept until
> > > they are deemed not to present a threat to the United state.
> >
> > Certain rules do not apply to enemy combatants.
>
> excuse me?
> thank you for being honest. and I hope you end up in guantanomo bay
> yourself then we can see if you change your views.
>
> we all deserve due process of the law.
>
> there are rules of war, and when those rules are broken those who brake
> them become war criminals.
>
> isnt there a geneva convention on the above?
>
>
> > Still, it does not answer my question. By questioning my nationality (has
> > nothing to do with the topic at hand here), you're questioning my righ to
> > post to SCL.
> I wasnt criticising I was questioning.
>
>
> > Lebanon is not going to welcome people like you (those who idolize the
> > Taliban), with open arms.
>
> [sigh]. I was told 3 times [we want you to stay in england]. dont think
> so.
>
> No country is going to welcome refugees which will put a burden on it.
> Russian police officer in Rome said "if you come to our country we have
> no interest in this problem" other police also ---- which makes me an
> unfortunate person in need of an appropriate state which will give me
> protection.
>
>
> >
> >
> > >> so while you're in the process of criticizing the US
> > >
> > > which is justified.
>
> the us military does not have the right to committ military crime,
> kidnap ppl or invade foreign countries on behalf of isreal or a few yrs
> before election time.
>
>
> > You'll have to come up with an alternative better than the Taliban, or your
> > You said that Muslims are not welcome in non Muslim countries, and that
> > you're therefore looking for a Muslim country to move to. Who's talking
> > nonsense now? Better yet, in this very post I'm responding to, you're
> > idolizing the murderous sectarian regime of the Taliban. Who's talking
> > nonsense now?
>
> As I said get your facts right. I am not a muslim, but was born , and
> therefore am from a muslim country.
>
> >
> > > I by contrast may back my assertions and hence, despite some of the
> > > content (MI5 MI6), dont talk nonsense.
> >
> > Not once did you back up your claims.
>
> Im a victim of a crime. I have no proof.
>
> > > which leads me back to the original question. Can I get by in Beirut or
> > > Lebanon wo Arabic, wrt finding a job, lawyer, room to sleep in etc.
> >
> > Which is something I answered: Lebanon does not need people like you.
>
> well personally Im quite a sweetie and hardworking too, so we will see
> :-I
>
> > > oh ps. I woke up in the room I was sleeping in someone had written in
> > > large letters on piece paper 20cm long "GUANTANOMO BAY" dont quite know
> > > what Im meant to interpret this.
> >
> > You woke up? I'm guessing you were still in the REM stage.
> >
> > > pps.wrt delusional
> > > If someone comes and says "Im the king of spain" he is being
> > > delusional.
> > > If he says "My neighbour tells me Im the king of spain" he has been
> > > misinformed
> >
> > So, who's the bigger fool: the guy who believes he's the Kinf of Spain if
> > his neighbor tells him, or the guy who believes it on his own? You're not
> > making a nice case for yourself. In any case, I responded initially for the
> > humor value, but it's no longer amusing. Good luck to you.
>
> In times of war odd hypothesises become tenable and believable.
> everything in context. what happened to me was not normal therefore
> what Ive been told may be true. I dont know.
>
> >
> > > If he says 'can I be your king of spain?' he is being presumptious.
> > >
> > > everything in context.

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