Re: Formation of Laonork or oversea Lao congress

On Feb 13, 4:48 am, Pao <drpao...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 13, 7:28 pm, thanouxay <thanou...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Pao,
Ok for the ball rolling... It had been so during the last 32 year and
you may notice the result.
You ball is still rolling to nowhere and lets not talk about it
size... More it rolls less people will attend to it.
From our side, the ball is also rolling and the result is:
1. Lao PDR is stonger and powerful than ever;
2. From merely 26 countries which had diplomatic relations with Laos,
we are now having diplomatic relations with over 146 countries in all
continents;
3. Growth rate is 8.6% and inflation rate is 4% for 2007;
4. Lao PDR is the most fovorite tourist destination for 2008 according
to New York Times;
5. In addition to four operating hydro dams, we are now building half
a dozen which are on-going and will be commecially operational in 2010
and 2012;
6. First year of ever we have recorded a trade surplus of US$ 90
millions out of a total trade volume of US$ 900 millions thanks to
good performance in export namely gold, cooper, furniture, electricity
etc...
7. By 2015 poverty will be basically eradicated and by 2020 Lao PDR
will be dropped out from Least Developped Countries (LDC);
8. Peace, political stability and security is perfect through out the
Nation;
9. Roads and national highway have desenclaves most of the regions
from North to South; and
10. Middle class is getting bigger and bigger by day.

Yes, Pao, lets let the ball rolling...

Sok dee

On Feb 13, 5:54 am, Pao <drpao...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 13, 3:41 am, Laonation <laotian...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Feb 12, 12:56 am, thanouxay <thanou...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Mosph,

Congratulation for having said what I was thinking aloud. Yes in deed,
this is another attempt to reactivate what the dying generation of Lao
old regime dad been dreaming for over three last decades. If Sary is
serious enough, he just come back and do buniness or run any other
activities he wish to... No need to have any organisation to make life
more difficult.

I hope that Sary will understand it. Anyway even if he pretends to
represent anybody to discuss with Lao authorities, nobody in Laos will
discuss with him because he represent nobody.

Sok dee

On Feb 11, 9:28 pm, mosph...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

tharn Sary thee huckpheng,

you said  .................The good part is that there will be a new
generation of
leaders in both Laonorks and Laonais who have nothing to do with the
conflict in the 60s, 70s.....................

are  you sure that the new gen. knows anything or  is interested at
all of what you just said ?
my feeling  and observation are difference from yours, new generation
doesn't know anything about Laos, because was born and raised in the
countries other than Laos. their countries are USA, France, Australia
and where ever they are in.  as yourself, it doesn't matter how long
you live in one country, your feeling still be the same as where you
were raised with some changes. now you have a nice home/homes, many
nice cars, kids/grand kids and whenever you go to the stores, you can
have whatever you need or you want. all of these are different in our
old land.  i understand your feeling, but please to explain more
about ............position us to have a voice to influence the
direction of Laos in the 21st century........comooooooooooon.  a lot
of folk try to do that.  my question is who are you/we ? to do that to
THE GOVERNMENT. are you familiar with yourself what you want?     how
comes ....Lao student union  overthrow the Lao government in
1975...........  please think seriously, now Laos is governs by a
different time and government.  it's not as the royal regime anymore.
to new lao gen. overseas  are happy with hip-hops, but to ..........
Laonork or oversea Lao Congress to have a voice and to participate in
the development of Laos in the 21st century?  or ..........to
influence the direction of Laos........... that is the sick and old
goal of dying lao oversea generation.
if you are serious about the betterment of laos, just go and do
business in laos in whatever you are expert at. i would recommend you
to invest in education first, otherwise just have a good breakfast, go
to work, comeback home have dinner with your family and be happy !

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Thanonxay,

Let's wait and see when the time comes whether you and Lao government
will sit down with me and many other oversea Lao leaders who have a
good heart and interest to be part of the future of Laos. Perhaps, you
will not be a person to decide after all.  I am not here to argue with
you and I am not interested to do that.  I just try to reach out to
other Lao people who share my dream and a common denominator to do
something positive for Lao people.

What you try to do is to prevent and undermine this noble vision.  The
more you try to stop this movement, the more Lao people from both
inside and outside of Laos would raise the BIG question "What wrong
with the idea?" if the idea is for the good of Lao people and Laos as
a nation. Therefore, please stay engaged and debate on this very idea
and issue so Lao people worldwide can digest it and make his/her
decision.

Laos today is a Steak between the Hungry Tigers. It will be a time
when Laos as a Nation would need all Lao people from around the world
to unite and to try to save Lao nation. By then you may not even be
around.

Laonation

Life moves on regardless what Thanouxay may say.

If the Laonork see that this is a noble move to come together as a
Laonork global organization, then just forge ahead.. The ball is
already rolling, like a snow ball and it is a good ball that will pick
up speed and gradually increase in size - and I am for it.  One day
that ball will be non-stoppable, as long as we keep the ball rolling.
It is up to the Laonork to look after ourselves - so keep the ball
rolling!!!

Later on, It will be up to the Phak/lat to decide when  the rolling
ball arrives at their door step, (and only until that time). At that
time in the near future, the Phak/lat or any future government in Laos
can decide if they want to deal with Bak Ko, Bak Kho or any such
laonork organisation.

For now, if people like  Chong or  Laonation is just Bak Ko, Bak Kho
but so what?  If there are only Bak Ko, Bak Kho - a no body, then why
Thanouxay be so concern about them and their suggestion?  Is he just
trying to shoot them down? What is his motive?

In any case, if the cause is noble for us the Laonork and/or
Laonai... then all we need to do is simply keep the ball rolling...
interesting time is ahead.

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Thanouxay,

It is good news to hear that Laos is doing well as you said.
Well done to you! and we are happy to see good things happen to Laos.

But as far as the Laonork is concern, we are rolling - yes...
rolling... not much results as yet but never understimate the
potential of the rolling Laonork.  What Laonai is lacking can be
filled by the Laonork. If you have a heart for Laos, and not just for
personal gain, the fact that Laonork are rolloing should be some real
concern to you. Laos' strength in the future is as strong as its
weakest point - either by Laoni or Laonork or together. The reality is
that Laos needs the Laonai and Laonork together to stear Laos's future
to better things. Just to think that Laonai can boun on without
Laonok, is a shortsighted view.  Laos is no island any more. Any
change in the west affect Laos, affect the Lao individuals as you have
personally been affected in your own business-  a simple change in the
exchange rate has adversely affected your export business already -
some 10-20% drop in profit is quite large!  Some people are even
thinking to close shop!

For now, you just continue to do your part for the Laonai AND just let
the Laonork do their part as Laonork, moving at their speed.  Any
thing that the Laonork achieve has automatically benefit Laos
anyway.

Secondly, don't blow your own trumpet so loud... why do you need to
blow it so hard? Naturally, when someone is doing so well, that person
does NOT need to blow his own trumpet so loud that is deafening at
all... others will do it for you.  The fact you are blowing so hard,
you are in fact sending out different message, that you are NOT doing
that well at all (just some free tip for you).. but that is your
laonai perogative to do so... just hope that you Laonai continue to do
your part for the country of Laos and just let the Bak Ko, Kak Kho
Laonork to roll their own ball. As I said, what ever the Laonorl do
will benefit the Laonai, one way or another as you can see what has
happening in the past 30 years.

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Dear All my fellow Laotian people

If we all think as Lao people, we should be happy and congratulate
each other for our achievement as the people. Success is not easy to
come by itself. We are now in the 21st Century, not 19th Century where
Lao people were being used by the Western powers by Two empires (The
Soviet Union (Communism) and the United States (Capitalism)) that made
Lao people hated and killed each other and destroyed the country in
the process and set back Laos to further backward. As far as I am
concenred, we are all losers. We were all being used and do the dirty
jobs for both empires at the Time.

Lao successes that Thanounxay have shown, if we compare with other
successes in the neighboring countries, they are incomparable.
However, we all should be proud of these successes and make sure the
success benefit Lao people as a whole.

With younger generation of leaders in both the Laonai and Laonork, we
should not allow the past to hinder the future. After all, Laos is
very small group of people in the region. There is no need to demonize
one another. The Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and others would love to
see Lao people keeping hating and killing each other so they can
benefit from it. Stop the self-inflicting wounds and undermine our own
future as Lao people in the world.

Laonation
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