Re: What they want from Japan?

"William Park" <opengeometry@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> min10011 <min10011@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Dear Commie-Hater: For the last 50 years the SK's mortal enemy has
> > been COMMIE NK not Japan. That is why the army is more important than
> > the navy.
>
> NK is just the "yes" man for other foreign powers who will pursue their
> respective interests. And, rightly so. My point was, for SK to rely on
> these same foreign powers to somehow act in our interest is just
> foolish. It's more foolish than praying for the right planetary
> alignment.

Did you read my comments below? SK is close to being a France/Britain
sized power, which puts it into the Great Power category, for the
first time in history. SK gets democracy better than Japan and China,
and it gets modern, international finance better than Japan and China.
You're looking at the problem from a mid-20th century viewpoint.
Economy _is_ power. And SK's only going to get stronger. I agree if
one is looking at a 50 year map down the road, the USA may not be
the reliable ally it is right now- but over a 10 year timeline, the
USA has too many committments to cut SK loose. In fact, the whole
US strategic calculation in NE Asia is based around Korea. Furthermore,
a first strike by Japan on SK would likely get the North Koreans to
launch a nuke at Japan, and Japan knows this- because the only thing
NK hates more than a SK outside its control, is an invading Japan.

> Now, for Army vs. Navy. It's true that war will end when you shove
> bayonet down enemy's throat. But, SK is surrounded by sea on 3 sides,
> and blocked to the North. SK Army is utterly locked in. Supplies and
> logistics to SK must come by sea. In contrast, NK can move their troops
> and supplies at will across Manchuria/Siberia borders. NK has the
> advantage. Everybody knows this. It's not news.

At will? NK doesn't have enough infrastructure connecting w/ China, nor
energy reserves to have anything resembling a logistical advantage over
SK.

Again, I fear your assumptions are just wrong. I know that _some_ people
think this, but most people do not share your view. As my analysis
demonstrates, mine is the more derivable opinion.

> Building up SK Navy means more than just warships. It means building up
> naval infrastructures, such as ship yard, steel factories, maritime
> engineering, new weapons system, sensor technology, etc. Missile has
> become the primary weapon of choice. You need to consider offensive and
> defensive strategy for that, in addition to the classic support for
> ground troops.

Steel? No problem. Shipyards? SK has one of the biggest shipbuilding
industries in the world. Weapon systems? Not needed, as platform and
munitions are both produced in SK. Maritime engineering will take
some time, but no more than a few years to get some good missile
frigates out there.

And again, I'll point out that accurate missiles are prohibitively
expensive. This is another example of how a larger economy will aid in
SK's strategic situation.

> As another poster said in this thread, this is intertwined with SK's
> economy. But, he views military spending as drain on SK economy.
> Whereas, I view naval/maritime investment as strengthening SK economy.
> Because it is SK Navy which determines where we can fish, drill for oil,
> move containers, do business, etc.

No! This is factually incorrect. I do not hold an opinion, I possess
facts and I cited my source- a Yale political economist who predicted
the collapse of the Soviet Union 4 years before it actually did so.
You on the other hand have done nothing more than furnish opinion
supplemented by little info.

Oil is yesterday's industry... strategically important for now, but
of declining importance. SK's goods already go everywhere in the world.
Fisheries are a minor industry and SK has the scientific and industrial
base to create protien if it has to (desperate spirulina farming).

You just want to see SK achieve military superiority over the region
now. As every major war in the last 250 years shows, the side with
the largest economy wins- NOT the side that started the war with the
biggest military.

In history, the side that antagonizes tends to lose. It is the side that
waits patiently for an opportunity that reaps history's biggest rewards.


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