Re: @ ROD - REVEALED!!!

My apologies to your group... I was not aware that this so-called
"Pastor" crossposted his trash into your group. I am really sorry.

Shalom,

::: vera :::

the In news:5t8qp8F1ar5iqU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
::: good news ::: <veralein@xxxxxxxxx> typed:
In news:c6cum3h45u3tm5u6vco9lmlse3vjcb4poh@xxxxxxx,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@xxxxxxxxxx> typed:
On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:49:25 GMT, Rod <icom706@xxxxxxx> said
the following:


Pastor Dave wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:54:01 -0600,
Rod <icom706@xxxxxxx> said the following:


"stupid ass Dispy's"...I see what you were referring to.

I usually wait 24 hours before kill filing,
to give any replies a chance to get through
and apparently, I forgot to put you in for
the 10 days at all. So I wanted to comment
on this, your comment.

I no longer hold you as an honest person, Rod.

You see, I may cuss and that may be wrong,
but I am honest. You are not. Why do I say that?

Simple! Because you just ignored Vera's lies about me,
when she called me an Anti-Semite and said things like
that I would be glad about the holocaust.

By websters definition you qualify as anti semite. Pay
close attention to 2a of the definition below, and please spare
me any garbage about not caring about the definition....

Now you're trying to claim that Vera calling me
an Anti-Semite is somehow okay! And now
you have called me one!

Dave, you ARE one.

When someone defends someone else snipping
and entire post that absolutely proved that the
NT says that it is the Jews who killed Christ
and then calling the person an Anti-Semite,
for only repeating what the Bible says, then
that person is a liar! And that person is you!

Furthermore, she says I liked the idea of the
holocaust!

Why do you not quote me? It is because your putting words intomy mouth
would be seen by everyone.

This also does not phase you and
you still defend her!

And she did this in response to a truthful post
about who the true Israel is, which the Bible
is clear on and she snipped it all, to call me
an Anti-Semite and did it in front of you!

But does Rod have a problem with that? No!
And you claimed not to be biased? BAWAHAHAHA!!!


You are and have demonstrated hostility to the jews.

I'm sorry that repeating Scripture bothers you so much!

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out
of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For
the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that
through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded
them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:25-32 KJV)




And gee, that Jesus guy! He was really mean to them!
Do you think He made it to Heaven? After all, He did
say some really evil things to them, like, "You are of
your father the Devil!" and told them that the Kingdom
was being taken away from them. Wow! I wonder
where He is now, huh Rod? He is an Anti-Semite
after all, having shown all of that hostility toward
the Jews!

Oh wait, that's right, I forgot, you don't care about that
and you ignored that, every time I posted it to you!

Of course, this made the fact that you were lying the
whole time about your mission here obvious, but hey,
as long as you didn't think so, it made it fun drawing
you out!

You see Rod, it never occurred to you that once I was
sure about you, which was a little while ago, that maybe
you weren't the one setting someone up and maybe it
was you who was being set up by your own words and
actions, which I had you think I was really upset about,
just to test your reaction. Of course, unlike you, I didn't
lie.

Rod lied? Where was that? I must have missed it!

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out
of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For
the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that
through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded
them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:25-32 KJV)


Everything I said to you and about you, was true!
You on the other had, were lying the whole time about
your mission in this group and we both know that, son!

Incredible!


Either way, thru ignorance or by way of deception,
you have denied being anti semitic when in fact you are.

I wouldn't be talking about deception if I were you!
Tell me you're not so stupid, that you will actually think
that you are fooling me, after I just exposed you today,
having gathered all of the evidence I needed!

Oh wait, that's right, you're a Dispy! You are that dumb!

Incredible, really!


And Roddy boy, by your definition (and here is the part
that you ignore as well), the Apostles themselves were
Anti-Semites! Check out what they said to the Jews...

"The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom
ye [Jews] slew and hanged on a tree." - Acts 5:30

"And we are witnesses of all things which He did
both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem;
whom they [Jews] slew and hanged on a tree."
- Acts 10:39

Now you can go pound sand! You deny the truth!

But I must thank you, Rod! Why? Because you just
proved three things for me, that I said about you
and you did it all by your widdle self and it didn't
take much prompting from me at all! All I had to
do, was hit the right spot! So let's take a look...


I've seen more than enough of your behavior to
lose confidence in any of your other words or actions.

1) You have been lying about "wanting to learn the truth"!

2) You are actually a Dispensationalist, pretending to be
at least a Partial Preterist!

3) You have been lying about your relationship with Vera!

:-------------------------------------------) (<-- Dave)


As for what she said regarding your feelings about
the holocaust, how would I know it to be a lie or true?
Simply because you want me to assume things doesn't
mean I'm going to do so.

You have been all along and have just done so again!

The problem with lying, idiot Dispy's like you, is that
because you are in a constant state of pucker around
a Jew's ass, you claim that anyone who claims just
exactly what the Scriptures say about the Jews,
is being hostile toward them!

News flash!: I didn't write the Bible, "Dispy Rod"!

Gee Roddy boy, I'm sorry I don't want to give every
Jew an anal licking like you do, but I prefer to believe
what the Scriptures say and not what Rod's Dispy
doctrine says about it!

Incredible!


I believe that the Jews (except those who are born again)
are evil, just as every other person who rejects Christ is!

You, "Pastor" Dave, surely are.

You believe that the Jews are Godly saints, who can
do no wrong, even though the Bible says they murdered
Jesus!

I believe that without Christ, they are damned!

Without Christ they are. But they will SEE HIM WHEN HE COMES BACK IN A
CLOUD - REMEMBER? EVERY EYE WILL SEE HIM, INCLUDING THOSE WHO PIERCED
HIM.

You believe that they will all be saved (there goes your
free will doctrine!), even though they spit in Christ's
face and tell you flat out He was a liar that they want
nothing to do with! And don't bother denying it,
since we both know Vera believes it and you defend her!
You can't do that and not give yourself away, son! Duh!

"Pastor" Dave thinks he knows more than the Apostle Paul...

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out
of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For
the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that
through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded
them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:25-32 KJV)

But maybe Dave does not read the Bible, and just has a leaflet of this
preterism lie.

I believe that every person, Jew or Gentile needs Christ
to be saved!

You believe that they don't even need Christ to be saved,
because you await that rebuilt temple, in which they will
be performing animal sacrifices for their sins, which you
and your cronies will be raising your hands up to God
in praise for!

I believe that the Kingdom was taken from them. Why?
Simple! BECAUSE JESUS SAID SO!!!
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out
of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For
the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that
through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded
them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:25-32 KJV)

You believe that it is all about them and it is their
kingdom AND YOU CALL JESUS A LIAR!!!

So let's see what we have here... A guy who believes
that Jews can do no wrong

It is incredible how this man puts words into people's mouths...


and who can spit in Christ's
face and perform animal sacrifices to get forgiveness
and that somehow, Jesus is going to come flying in
on a cloud to save the Jews, because He's really
interested in a strip of dirt and at the same time,
He'll let the Christians get slaughtered!

What a bold liar!

So like Vera, you believe that Christ's mission is to
go nd fight a physical war to save those who would
spit in His face, while at the same time, sending
His true followers into torture and death in a tribulation
that the Jews won't experience, because hey, they're
"God's special people"!

I really cannot remember having written anything similar to that. But
he will not give any proof - surely not. He is the Pinoccio winner -
so what could be expected?

:----------------------------------------) (<-- Dave)


Yea, you're sounding real Christian there, Roddy boy!
Thanks for showing us Christians how much Jesus
really loves us, huh?!?

According to you and Vera, it would be better for a person
to reject Christ, spit in His face and convert to Judaism!

1) No tribulation to go through!

2) He fights your wars for you!

3) You don't have to do what He says!

4) And you get to run the world and get your
strip of dirt forever and live in paradise!

Yea, that's some great, biblical doctrine you've got there!

And don't bother denying it, undercover Dispy! As I said,
you've been defending Vera and everything she says about
those who disagree with her doctrine and you have fully
revealed yourself, so don't bother trying to play the game
with me any more!

Incredible, this guy!


And furthermore, you don't seem to have a problem
with her saying that the Jews can spit at Christ and
still be saved through the Law.

You Rod, have no problem with her doctrine that
one does not need Christ to be saved! And that
makes you a person who does not care about the
truth!

Your statement above makes the mistake of assuming that
I know of these things, when in fact I have never seen
these things in the posts that I have read, so I cannot
comment on that which I have not seen.

Had you reposted proof of what you were saying it may
have been different

Bull*** yourself, don't bull*** me, Roddy boy!
Since you get your idea (which you know is a lie)
that I am an Anti-Semite from Vera's lying posts
to me, then you saw what she believes, so kiss
my ***! That in addition to the fact that I had
showed you what she believes and you even
responded to that very post, shows that you're
a liar!

Nobody but "Pastor" Dave might see that...


Now is that enough "language" for you to focus on
and pretend that no matter how true what I said is,
it still must be wrong because of how I said it?

I figured I'd address you this way, so you'd have
an easy excuse to avoid the truth, since I know
that you'll be looking for one to hide behind,
cowardly lying Dispy!

And btw Rod, what happened to "Mr. Nice Guy"?
Now, all of the sudden, you have no problem
attacking me in the same way that Vera does!

I have not seen Rod attacking Dave anywhere...

Do you see how easy you were to see through???
I knew telling the truth about you, that you didn't
THINK that you revealed, but DID, would strike
a nerve with you, Dispy! <chuckle>

For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is
happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And
so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out
of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as
touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For
the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in
times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through
their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that
through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded
them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

(Romans 11:25-32 KJV)


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