Re: Author no longer 'in love with the Zionist narrative'
- From: "????? ??????/Riain Barton" <riain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 23:55:34 +0300
Zionist revisionists?
Then you are not Jewish at all!
But you are a bigot and an anti-Semite, of the worse kind, a Jew who
hates others Jews, and the land of Israel!
And for feck's sake are you too bloody thick that you cannot even read
my name? Where did the bleeding "H" come from?
It is R-Í-A-I-N -- the first "I" has an accent make over it called fada,
it means long. In Irish we use the Latin vowel system.
"Nick" <tulse04-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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: >
: > "????? ??????/Riain Barton" <riain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > news:T6CHe.1345$0p.468@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >> Nice spin, KAPO.
: >
: > & now you know why he won't post on scjm.
: >
:
: As you know the reason that I am not posting is that it is a club for
: rightwing Zionist revisionists.
:
: The precise reasons are published on my other posting - in the
employment
: field, it is called "Constructive Dismissal".
:
: I would remind the ng that Susan Cohen commended me for the
contribution a
: few months ago, so she has got a very short memory, and she is content
to
: follow the crowd rather than have a mind of her own.
:
: Yes, I am the same person, Susan - so please will you explain that -
how so
: the bigot and anti-semite that I was accused of by a certain person on
scjm.
:
: That person's sole output smacks of bigotry, so I think it is a
question of
: the pots and the kettles.
:
: And would, a so-called kapo bother spending an hour turning up these
: references - I think not.
:
: I think that the lunatics have been let loose - and one of them seems
to be
: hurtling straight at me. I had better get out of the way - it's Rhian
: Barton.
:
: Nick
:
: >>>From: "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@xxxxxxxxxxx>
: >>>Subject: Re: Jews control world economy, admit to dominate
: >>>Date: 19 April 2005 11:48
: >>>
: >>>Terrific post - nice work!
: >>>
: >>>Susan
:
: "Nick" <tulse04-news@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: news:d418d4$bv8$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >
: > <laura.jensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
: > news:1113726932.701429.247400@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
: >> 25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers.
: >> Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever
: >> destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by
Jewish
: >> Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).
: >>
: >
: > I have found this precise quote from
: > http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jm0016a.htm
: >
: > It is very interesting that all the websites that they have found
refer to
: > this Maurice Samuels as "Jewish Author"
: >
: > http://christiansbiblestudy.org/hitler_nonracist.htm
: > http://www.radioislam.org/judaism/satank1.htm
: > http://www.vho.org/D/dudj/6.html (in German, noch yet the title of
the
: > book is given in English - strange that).
: > http://www.giwersworld.org/holo/quotes.html
: > http://www.radioislam.org/islam/deutsch/arkiv/zitat.htm (again in
German,
: > with the English title)
: > In the forum Juden und deren Deutung (Forum haGalil which I think is
an
: > Israeli forum) also.
: >
: > In a discussion on a German discussion group
: > http://www.politikforum.de/forum/archive/23/2002/07/1/18113 in the
Near
: > and Middle East Forum.
: >
: > A creep called Holzhacker starts
: >
: > "Mir ist eine Religion suspekt, wenn Ihre Anh?nger Rassisten sind
: > Nicht schreien : Antisemit !
: > Erst lesen was gewisse nicht alle Juden von sich geben, ich habe
: > jedenfalls Angst vor diesen "Juden""
: >
: > Trans "To me it is a suspect religion, if its racist adherents are
not
: > crying "Anti-semite!"
: >
: > First read what certainly not every Jew thinks of themselves, I am
anyway
: > afraid of these Jews"
: >
: > All the quotes are in capitals, and must have been pasted from
another
: > source. The Samuels quote is one of them.
: >
: > Let us take this one (excuse the translation)
: >
: > JUDEA ERKL?RT DEUTSCHLAND DEN KRIEG Daily Express, 24 M?rz 1934
: >
: > "Jewry declares war on Germany" - 1934. Well, this was in 1934. A
year
: > after Hitler came to power. Well that is a surprise. I thought that
Hitler
: > had already declared war on the Jews in "Mein Kampf".
: >
: > Well it turns out that the Daily Express headline was from 24.3.33
(24
: > March 1933)
: >
: > http://www.adlusa.com/jewwatchusa/judea_declares_war_on_germany.htm
: >
: > T?TE JEDEN DEUTSCHEN WO IMMER DU EINEN FINDEN KANNST HABE KEIN
MITLEID MIT
: > IHREN FRAUEN ODER KINDER ODER DEN ALTEN
: > T?TE JEDEN DEUTSCHEN, VERNICHTE SIE
: > der Jude Ilya Ehrenburg, Glaser S111
: >
: > I looked this up and found the following:
: >
: > "009
: > ALLEGED QUOTE
: > "Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German is our moral
: > enemy. Have no mercy on women, children, or the aged! Kill every
German
: > wipe them out!"
: >
: > Llya Ehrenburg, Glaser, p. 111
: >
: > RESPONSE
: > This quote is #009 from the anti-Semitic document
: > http://abbc.com/quotes/q001-050.htm "1000 Quotes by and about Jews".
It is
: > available in similar form from many sources, but not necessarily
with the
: > same number.
: >
: > Whilst Llya Ehrenburg was a historical person, an extensive library
search
: > was conducted and no book called "Glaser" or edited by a person of
that
: > name could be located. It is therefore very probable that this
"quote" is
: > a forgery.
: >
: > In fact, Ehrenburg's attitude to the war-time treatment of civilians
is
: > quite the opposite of what is suggested in the quote. In a letter in
the
: > spring of 1945 to Stalin, Ehrenburg made clear the position he had
held
: > all along:
: >
: >
: > I heard from Pravda that they will be re-publishing my article
"Enough!"
: > in a mass printing. The Pravda article claims, incomprehensibly,
that an
: > anti-Fascist calls for the universal destruction of the German
people. I
: > did not call for this. In those years, when the usurpers trampled
upon our
: > soil, I wrote that it was necessary to kill the German occupiers.
But at
: > the time I emphasized that we are not Fascists and far from
reprisals.
: > After returning from East Prussia, I emphasized several articles . .
..
: > that we are approaching the civilian population with different
measures
: > than the Hitlerlites used. In this, my conscience is clean. (Quoted
in
: > Rubenstein 224)
: > Ehrenburg was also the target of anti-Semitic smears by people such
as
: > Goebbels (and modern-day anti-Semites) who invoked some true
quotations
: > from Ehrenburg in an attempt to discredit him. An example of such a
quote
: > is "If you kill one German, kill another - there is nothing more
amusing
: > for us than a heap of German corpses" (cited in Ehrenburg, Ilya.
"Kill."
: > *Krasnaya Zvezda* (Red Star) (July 18, 1942): 3). This was written
at the
: > height of the war and was written for a military audience, not for
the
: > benefit of civilians. Whilst it sounds extreme, such a sentiment
would not
: > be unexpected in time of total war. He never urged the killing or
rape of
: > civilians as proved by the letter cited above.
: >
: > In early 1945 Ehrenburg was in Germany and reported back to Moscow
about
: > how badly the Red Army was behaving. There was then an attempt by
Security
: > Chief Abakumov to discredit him in Stalin's eyes for complaining
about the
: > Red Army's misbehavior. This further demonstrates that he did not
condone
: > mistreatment of civilians.
: >
: > Rubenstein, Joshua. Tangled Loyalties: The Life and Times of Ilya
: > Ehrenburg. New York: BasicBooks, 1996
: >
: > Research conducted by Andrew E. Mathis, PhD, edited by David S.
Maddison
: > (maddison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)"
: >
: > WEITERE LIEBENSGR?SSE AUS ZIONISTISCHER FEDER:
: >
: > DER KAMPF GEGEN DEUTSCHLAND WIRD SCHON SEIT EINIGEN MONATEN VON
JEDER
: > J?DISCHEN ORGANISATION, AUF JEDER KONFERENZ, IN ALLEN GEWERKSCHAFTEN
UND
: > DURCH JEDEN EINZELNEN JUDEN AUF DIESER WELT DURCHGEF?HRT WIR WERDEN
SOWOHL
: > EINEN GEISTIGEN ALS AUCH EINEN MATERIELLEN KRIEG DER GANZEN WELT
GEGEN
: > DEUTSCHLAND VOM ZAUNE BRECHEN DEUTSCHLAND BEGINNT SCHON WIEDER DIE
: > VERLORENEN KOLONIEN, UND TERRITORIEN ZU BEANSPRUCHEN UND EINE
F?HRENDE
: > ROLLE IN EUROPA EINZUNEHMEN ABER UNSERE J?DISCHEN INTERESSEN
VERLANGEN DIE
: > KOMPLETTE UND TOTALE ZERST?RUNG VON DEUTSCHLAND
: > J?nner 1934 !!! in MASCHA RJETSCH von Vladimir Jabotinsky
: >
: > It is quite clear that the conspiracy is not a Jewish one, but
rather an
: > anti-Jewish conspiracy. As the British Jewish comedian, Arnold
Brown, said
: > "When I was at school all the kids said that Jews had lots of money.
: > Funny, me living in my Gorbals apartment had not seen this. So when
I got
: > home from school I started tearing up the floorboards looking for
hidden
: > money."
: >
: > And then the funniest thing is that these and more are quoted in
: > http://www.dundeedirect.co.uk/old/reviswardeclared.htm
: >
: > This is prefaced with the immortal lines: "This page dedicated to
the
: > memory of my Father.
: > He fought against the German's in North Africa & Italy". I am sure
his
: > father is terribly proud of him.
: >
: > Then the piece de resistance of this political organiser and
historian of
: > note quotes from a number of newspaper articles.
: >
: > Now the normal person might have thought that if Herr Hitler had
come to
: > power with the express intention of excluding the Jews from German
life,
: > you might have thought that "World" Jewry might act together to
defend
: > their brethren - this is perceived by this latterday AJP Taylor to
be a
: > world conspiracy.
: >
: > *******************************************************************
: > BOYCOTT OF GERMAN GOODS
: >
: > MASS DEMONSTRATIONS IN MANY DISTRICTS
: >
: > DRAMATIC ACTION
: >
: > "Daily Express" Special Political Correspondent.
: > ALL Israel is uniting in wrath against the Nazi onslaught on the
Jews in
: > Germany.
: >
: > Adolf Hitler, swept into power by an appeal to elemental patriotism,
is
: > making history of a kind he least expected. Thinking to unite only
the
: > German nation to race consciousness he has roused the whole Jewish
people
: > to a national renaissance.
: >
: > The appearance of the Swastika symbol of a new Germany has called
forth
: > the Lion of Judah, the old battle symbol of Jewish defiance.
: >
: > Fourteen million Jews dispersed throughout the world have banded
together
: > as one man to declare war on the German persecutors of their
: > co-religionists. Sectional differences and antagonisms have been
submerged
: > in one common aim - to stand by the 600,000 Jews of Germany who are
: > terrorised by Hitlerist anti-Semitism, and to compel Fascist Germany
to
: > end its campaign of violence and suppression directed against its
Jewish
: > minority.
: >
: > World Jewry has made up its mind not to rest quiescent in face of
this
: > revival of medieval Jew-baiting.
: >
: > Germany may be called on to pay a heavy price for Hitler's
antagonism to
: > the Jews. She is faced with an International boycott in commerce,
finance,
: > and ministry. She may find herself in spiritual and cultural
isolation,
: > recoiling before the burning crusade that Jews of all lands are
launching
: > in defence of their afflicted brethren.
: >
: > The Jewish merchant prince is leaving his counting-house, the banker
his
: > board-room, the shopkeeper his store, and the pedlar his humble
barrow a
: > holy war to combat the Hitlerist enemies of the Jew.
: >
: >
: >
: > CONCERTED ACTION
: > Plans for concerted Jewish action are being matured in Europe and
America
: > to strike back in reprisal at Hitlerist Germany.
: >
: > In London, New York, Paris, and Warsaw, Jewish merchants are uniting
for a
: > commercial crusade against Germany
: >
: > Resolutions are being taken throughout the Jewish business world to
seve
: > trade relations with Germany.
: >
: > Large numbers of merchants in London have resolved to stop buying
German
: > goods, even at the cost of suffering heavy loss.
: >
: > Similar action is being taken throughout the United States. Mass
meetings
: > in New York and other American cities attended by hundreds of
thousands of
: > indignant Jews, have called for a wholesale boycott of German goods.
In
: > Poland the trade embargo on Germany is already in operation. In
France a
: > proposed ban on German imports is being widely canvassed in Jewish
: > circles.
: >
: > A concerted world boycott by Jewish buyers is likely to involve
grave
: > damage to the German export trade. Jewish merchants all over the
world are
: > large buyers of German manufactured goods, chiefly cotton goods,
silks,
: > toys, electrical fittings, and furniture.
: >
: > A meeting of the Jewish textile trade in London has been called for
Monday
: > to consider the situation and to determine what steps should be
taken in
: > regard to Germany.
: >
: >
: >
: > SHIPPING THREAT
: > Germany is a heavy borrower in foreign money markets, where Jewish
: > effluence is considerable. Continued anti-Semitism in Germany is
likely to
: > react seriously against her. A move is on foot on the part of Jewish
: > financiers action to stop.
: >
: > Germany's Transatlantic shipping traffic is likewise threatened. The
: > Bremen and the Europa, the German crack liners, may suffer heavily
from a
: > Jewish anti-German boycott. Jewish trans-ocean travellers from an
: > important part of the patrons of these liners because of their
extensive
: > part in international trade. The loss of their patronage would be a
heavy
: > blow to Germany's Atlantic trade.
: >
: > World-wide preparations are being made to organise great Jewish
: > demonstrations of protest to call attention to the sufferings of the
: > German Jews at the hands of the Hitlerites, and to demand action to
stop
: > German anti-Semitism.
: >
: > The whole of American Jewry has been roused to an unprecedented heat
of
: > indignation agents Germany. A rabbinical decree in New York has made
next
: > Monday a day of fasting and prayer over the Hitler campaign.
: >
: > Fasting will begin on Sunday at sunset and finish at sunset on
Monday. All
: > Jewish shops in New York will be closed on Monday during a parade.
: >
: > Apart from a monster meeting in Madison Square Garden, meetings are
to be
: > held in 300 American cities.
: >
: > Madison Square Garden will see the remarkable sight of Bishop
Manning
: > peaking from a Jewish platform appealing for an end of the Hitler
: > "terror".
: >
: > Every Rabbi in the City of New York has been placed under a scared
: > obligation by Rabbinical decree to devote Saturday's sermon to the
plight
: > of the Jews in Germany.
: >
: > The "New York Times" this morning says a list of a thousand German
: > immigrations who have come to the United States during recent years
has
: > been compiled by an overseas Nazi organisation, the object being to
use
: > these people for Nazi propaganda in the United States.
: >
: > SPECIAL SESSION
: > The organisation of Jewish youth in Britain is organising
demonstrations
: > in London and the provinces during the week-end.
: >
: > The Board of Deputies of British Jews, representing the entire
Jewish
: > community in Great Britain, is meeting in special session on Sunday
to
: > discuss the German situation and decide on what action is to be
taken to
: > counteract the attacks on their German fellow Jews.
: >
: > Members of the American House of Representatives are introduction
: > resolutions protesting against the anti-Jewish express in Germany.
The
: > American trade unions, representing 3,000,000 workers, have also
decided
: > to join in the protests.
: >
: > Representative Jewish organisations in the European capitals are
: > understood in to be making representations to their respective
Governments
: > to use influence with the Hitler Cabinet to induce it to call a halt
in
: > the oppression of the German Jews.
: >
: > The old and reunited people of Israel are rising with new and modern
: > weapons to fight this age old battle with their persecutors.
: >
: >
************************************************************************************
: > If we had had any real influence would the Board of Deputies of
British
: > Jews have been discussing the German situation. Clearly fat lot of
good in
: > the end it did.
: > "Representative Jewish organisations in the European capitals are
: > understood in to be making representations to their respective
Governments
: > to use influence with the Hitler Cabinet to induce it to call a halt
in
: > the oppression of the German Jews." Some world conspiracy!!
: >
: > I can only think that this guy is having a laugh.
: > And: Is this a world conspiracy? It's laughable.
: > Nick
: >
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