Re: Little Would a Goy Know
- From: Gary <garyrsn@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 14:05:51 +0000 (UTC)
On Thu, 17 May 2012 13:09:06 +0000 (UTC), The Golem from Schmolem
<jpdm45@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I always felt kind of sorry for my father's people that they should
never be allowed to drink anything but a lot of sweet, foxy Mogen
David and Manichevitz wine, but I never knew anything about kashrut
laws, nor that those come with the demand that the grape juice be
cooked, or even by a strict interpretation, boiled!
When I asked my sweet Shiksa mother what was the difference between
ordinary wine and the kosher, she 'informed' me in terms of an old goy
superstition, that Jews can't eat or drink the juice of any fruit from
a plant that is not grown from seed. She explained that the great
wines of France and Germany are made from grapes that come without
seed, whereas the American Concord grape is kosher because it contains
seed.
Not till today did I discover the true definition and requirement for
kosher wine which, seed or no seed, will be such a wine that shall not
have been touched during any part of its process by the hands of a
Gentile, or which is the same, a wine that would be offered to idols--
such as during a Christian communion service.
However, according to Wiki, "When kosher wine is yayin mevushal ("???
?????" - "cooked" or "boiled"), it becomes unfit for idolatrous use
and will keep the status of kosher wine even if subsequently touched
by an idolater."
So long as you boil it *before* a Gentile has touched it, not after?
That's it. Good thing such a law was instituted before the day of
Louis Pasteur, or it would have caused a lot of insult among the Goyim
of the world, that we should infer from this that we really are all
THAT "unclean" in the sight of Jews. As it is, Jews suffer greatly for
it, having to drink a wine with all the flavor cooked out of it--
BEFORE the hands of a Christian or idolater (same thing) should touch
it.
It's not a courtesy being done for Gentiles, that Jewish wine should
be boiled or cooked before a Goy should touch it, for what Gentile in
his right mind would suppose he might be defiled by the touch of
uncooked kosher wine? Would I go into a Jewish delicatessen and
demand to know whether my glass of water had first been boiled? What
of the matzo ball soup? This it goes without saying would be boiled or
brought to a simmer, at least before it is served to anyone, Jew or
Gentile.
From the outside looking in, I must confess my feeling that theseconcerns generated of the kashrut laws, despite the implicit insult to
a Gentile that a wine meet for Jewish lips must somehow be made
magically pure by cooking or boiling BEFORE a Gentile's hands should
have touched it--well, despite the utterly comical irrationality of a
practice like THAT, in the end, it can only serve the insult first to
the Jew, in something that tastes more like raisin juice than anything
approaching a deliciously fresh flavor of the grape.
But there's more to it than that. Jews do suffer for it by much more
when antisemites get the news of what the kasrut laws really mean--
with regard to themselves. It raises the question: will things ever
change in this world so far as the suffering that antisemitism brings
so long as Jews continue to regard Gentiles/Christians as "unclean"?
No, things will never change so long as the endless war of irrational
conflicting prejudices goes on as inspired by religious dogma with no
foundation in a proper reading of scripture. Whether it is the never
ceasing 'blood libel' believed by many a Christian of whatever stripe
that the founder of their religion was murdered "by the Jews" or the
implicit implication of Gentile impurity contained in the kasrut laws--
truly! How could the insult be deeper or more hurtful than just as it
is from both ends?
And what can change, can enter in to solve it and still allow for both
Jew and Christian to have their religion without it's being built of
insult one for the other? It is so simple, and it is strictly what I
always say to every Christian I've ever heard give voice to such
superstitious claptrap: I tell them that it was not "the Jews" who
were behind the execution of their founder, for many were the Jews who
were one hundred percent behind him--and remained so. I tell them that
not all Jews are priests, and not all priests are the kind of stinkers
who would go to the Romans in demand of such a thing. I would say the
*same thing* to the Jew, that it has ALWAYS been the "stinkers" among
those same ancient priests who were insisting that wine should be
boiled before it is fit for a Jew to drink. Those are the same
stinkers who saw to it that the prophet Isaiah was sawn in half at the
altar, and that Jeremiah be hung down on a rope into the dung pit.
Is it not absurd that both Jew and Gentile should have to suffer for
so long as man shall live for the sins, stupidity and ignorance that
the stinkers among us have managed to perform in the way of stinking
up both religions with their hateful, irrational, insipid
superstition?
What exactly *is* the difference, to you, between religion and
superstition?
.
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