Re: Angels Was: More on pain to animals



On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:03:36 +0000 (UTC), "Steve Goldfarb"
<slg@xxxxxxxxx> said:

In <2011Aug10.121936@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> moshes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Not as such, I don't think, but consider the song "Shalom Aleichem"
typically sung on Friday nights and addressed to the angels who it
is said accompany one home from shul (or something like that).

Exactly like that.

Oh, excellent - thanks. It's amazing what one remembers...

Although I believe some don't think the song is necessarily 100%
doctrinally sound.

I don't know who those "some" might be. But their complaint is not
about the fact that angels accompany one home from shul. Rather it
might be the propriety of having a song in their honor.

Right, that's what I was referring to - or even not just that it's in
their honor, but that it's actually addressed to them rather than to God,
i.e., "God thank you for the angels" would be fine but "Angels thanks for
ministering over us" is to some people potentially iffy. IIUC.

That's correct. AFAIK all tikkunei Shabbat (things recited/sung before
and after Friday night prayers) are of Kabbalistic origin. As such,
many bets are off. Likewise, not a few rabbis have a problem with one
of the hymns composed for Yom Kippur that implores angels to intercede
for us.
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