Re: Israel's new loyalty oath
- From: Amitai <chr04ha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:54:59 +0000 (UTC)
On Oct 12, 3:40 pm, mos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
"Abe Kohen" <abeko...@xxxxxxxxx> writes:You must be joking.
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Amitai <chr0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
"Abe Kohen" <abeko...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
(Quoting the Israeli Declaration of Independence)
B'Eretz Israel kam ha-am ha-Yehudi ... anu machrizim b'zot al
hakamat medina Yehudit b'Eretz Israel, he Medinat Israel.
It was good enough for Ben Gurion, et. al., and it is good enough for
This was the one topic that B.G. was not farsighted about. (As an
example of his usual prescience, he saw clearly the stupidity of
settling the West bank and Gaza). He did not foresee the consequences
of his reliance the Haredim and NRP as coalition partners. If he knew
how far along the road to a halakhic state it would take us, he might
have been a bit more cautious in his wording, and said " ... haqamat
medinat hayehudim (or better still "medinat `am yisrael") be-eretz
Do you really think tha wording was for the sake of Haredim? Did any
Haredi actually sign the Declaration of Independence?
Yehuda Leib Fishman
Meir David Loewenstein
What an august list of_personages_. Do you think a similarly
impressive list could be made from the current Knesset members?
Incidentally, to answer Abe's (rhetorical?) question, there are three
Haredim on the list: Kalman Kahana (Poalei Agudat Yisrael), Yitzhak-
Meir Levin and Meir David Loewenstein (Agudat Yisrael).
Levin was a full member (Minister) in Ben Gurion's first coalition,
but later resigned o ideological grounds. Since then the Ashkenazi
Haredim have only accepted positions as Deputy Minister, often with
full ministerial powers, as an indication of their ambiguous attitude
to the State.
It is a tremendous Mitzvah to always be happy! - Reb Nachman of Breslov
The home and family are the center of Judaism, *not* the synagogue.
May Eliezer Mordichai b. Chaya Sheina Rochel have a refuah shlaimah
btoch sha'ar cholei Yisroel.
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