Re: What is a good Jewish boy from South Africa doing running as GOP candidate in Skokie?
- From: mm <NOPSAMmm2005@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:01:07 +0000 (UTC)
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:23:38 +0000 (UTC), chsw <chsw10605@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote:
Joel Pollak is running for congress in Illinois. A very bright
Harvard Law School grad (not that Harvard is all that much better than
many other law schools), he has the support of Alan Dershowitz.
Heard Dershowitz speak on WLS this morning about Pollak. And Pollak
is a Tea Party candidate!!!!
Janice Schakowsky, the current congressional representative, has
openly supported the statements by Helen Thomas about sending Jews
back to Poland.
Totally 100% false.
You're living in lala land. You should see someone who will teach you
how to distinguish fact from nonsense fantasy. If you can't find
someone to teach you, you should just stop posting.
It's a sin to speak motzi shem ra about another Jew.
Schakowsky "has openly supported the statements by Helen Thomas
about sending Jews back to Poland"? That's a very serious issue
in a congressional district that may have more camp survivors
than any other outside of Brooklyn or southern FL. Do you have a
link?
chsw
Well, according to wikip, her "district includes many of Chicago's
northern suburbs, including Evanston, Skokie, Wilmette, Park Ridge,
Des Plaines and Rosemont. It also includes a large portion of
Chicago's North Side bordering Lake Michigan." Skokie and I think some
of those other places have a lot of Jews. Oh, yeah, you already
brought that up. Her predecessor was Sid Yates, a Jew. So right
there, one can guess that she never said anything like Shmaryahu's
claim. Shmaryahu has made a lot of ridiculous claims in the past, so
it pays to be super-cautious regarding what he says.
Oh, she's a Jew too. What are the odds that Shmaryahu is right? One
in a 100 million? I wouldn't believe Shmaryahu if his tongue came
notarized. It is possible, I guess, that someone else made up this
story about her and he believes it.
Here's what she says about Israel on her Congressional website. ONe
important sentence of it is certainly not what I would like but it's
10000's of miles from supporting Helen Thomas's statement, like Shmar
falsely claimed:
http://schakowsky.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2652&Itemid=47
"A negotiated, two-state solution offers the best prospect for
long-term peace and security for Israel and the region. I am a strong
supporter of Israel, and I am committed to ensuring its security and
survival as a Jewish state. Strong U.S. leadership will be necessary
to achieve these goals, and I support President Obama?s efforts to
help Israel reach a settlement that is agreeable to all sides.
"It is critical that all parties to the conflict meet their
international obligations. The Palestinians must recognize Israel?s
right to exist, halt the violence and incitement, and agree to abide
by all previous agreements. The Israelis must halt settlement
expansion.
"The United States must continue to work to engage Israel?s Arab
neighbors in search of a comprehensive, regional plan for peace.
"I have a deep personal connection to the State of Israel, and I will
always be a steadfast friend and supporter as Israel seeks peace and
security."
And I defintely don't like J-Street, but before I call someone a Helen
Thomas supporter just because she went to their convention, I'd like
to know what she said there first: Here we go:
Schakowsky Remarks to J Street National Convention
http://schakowsky.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2647:schakowsky-remarks-to-j-street-national-convention&catid=2:press-releases&Itemid=57
WASHINGTON, DC (October 27, 2009) ? Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-IL,
participated in a panel discussion titled, "The View from the Hill:
Congress and the U.S. - Israel Relationship" at J Streets? first
national conference.
Her opening remarks are below:
Thank you for inviting me to participate in J Street?s first national
conference. I am always proud to join my many friends here today ?
what a great turnout -- who are dedicated, as I am, to a peaceful and
secure future for the State of Israel ? the Jewish State of Israel.
From the earliest minutes of her founding, the United State hassupported Israel, and Israel in turn has been a reliable friend and
the closest of allies in a dangerous but vital region of the world. A
strong Israel is a matter of U.S. national interest as is an enduring
peace in the region.
As a member of Congress and a Jew, it has been gratifying to me that
U.S. Congressional support for Israel has been strongly bi-partisan,
actually nearly universal, even when our politics has been fraught
with partisan tensions. Financial assistance to Israel has always
been widely supported. Joint strategic, economic and scientific
endeavors that benefit both the United States and Israel are routinely
enacted without controversy.
Still, after 61 years, Israelis live in a state of perpetual danger
with only intermittent respite from deadly conflict. And so, as
Israel?s best friend in the world, it is quite natural that we would
be debating how best to most effectively to work toward long-term
security. I believe that means actively working to achieve a
negotiated two-state solution with the Palestinians. While no third
party can execute such an agreement, it is clear that the United
States can and must play a role if it is to happen.
In addition, long term security means working with Israel and other
countries in the region to avert a nuclear arms race and to bring
about a peaceful resolution caused by Iran?s nuclear program.
I want to let you know that I am a cosponsor of two Iran-related bills
in the House. I?m a cosponsor of H.R. 1327, Rep. Barney Frank?s bill
allowing state and local governments to divest from companies heavily
invested in Iran?s energy sector, which passed the House on 10/14 by a
vote of 414-6. I?m also a cosponsor of H.R. 2194, Rep. Berman?s Iran
Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act, which is scheduled to be marked up on
Wednesday.
These goals are not easy to achieve. The obstacles to peace have been
festering for a very long time. But it is also clear that perpetual
war is not the answer. President Obama, who enjoyed wide support for
his election among American Jews, 79% of the Jewish vote, views this
as a top international priority and has appointed George Mitchell as a
Special Envoy to the region. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has
long been a trusted friend of Israel as well.
The Administration and many of us feel a sense of urgency about the
situation -- that delay in working toward a peaceful, long term
solution only makes matters worse. I am hopeful that the debate on
just what to do can be conducted within the Jewish community and
within our country in a manner that acknowledges that differences of
opinion do not reflect a difference of commitment to Israel.
Being united in support of Israel should not preclude a vigorous
debate about which particular strategy or tactic to adopt. We are
having such a debate right now on Afghanistan among people who firmly
support the goals of a stable, self-sufficient and more democratic
country -- more troops, less troops, a civilian surge etc.
And so I welcome the opportunity to participate in this discussion
here today or anywhere that friends of Israel gather to explore the
opportunities for peace and the obstacles that stand in the way.
--end quote--
Shmaryahu, are you able to post while sleeping? If not, explain to
us how you get the facts so wrong, so backwards, so often. And why
you are willing to slander a Jew without checking your facts?
Something like Shelly with Abe, I don't like to take the time to read
Shmaryahu's posts, but the ironic result is that when he says things
like this, I'm not there to rebut it. I'm glad you wrote something.
http://www.hlrecord.org/news/running-for-congress-joel-pollak-seeks-to-recolor-illinois-political-map-1.1188456#5
http://www.pollakforcongress.com/
http://www.facebook.com/PollakForCongress
Alan Dershowitz, a self-described "Democrat," publicly endorsed
Republican congressional candidate Joel Pollak for Congress
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2010/06/civil-libertarian-alan-dershowitz-backs.html
--
Meir
"The baby's name is Shlomo. He's named after his grandfather, Scott."
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