Re: Where did all of the Jews go? (retirement homes in Virgina)

chsw wrote:
sheldonlg wrote:
Both of you are speaking in extremes. The truth (along with my own tirade on one subject) is given below:

cindys wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:55 pm, Omega <Omega....@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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1. I just do not hear that much Yiddish these days.

Many of the chareidim (especially chassidim) speak Yiddish
exclusively. It continues to be the first and only language spoken in
many chareidi homes (in both Israel and the USA) and also the primary
language spoken in many chareidi yeshivos (in both Israel and the
USA).

Shame on them! <tirade> The CHOSE to emigrate to the US or Israel. Learn to speak the damn language (English and Hebrew respectively) and USE it. If you can't learn to speak it, then at least have your children learn it as a first language. I moved to central Florida from southeast Florida (Ft. Lauderdale/Miami area) and I joke how I am glad about moving back to the United States. If you aren't willing to adopt the language of your chosen country as your own PRIMARY language and have it be your children's FIRST language, then DON'T COME). </tirade>


2. Jews are no longer seen as lower class but often part of the well
educated and wealthy.

Point 2 is a rather meaningless generalization, but at least, it's
benign. I don't know that Jews were ever regarded as "lower class"
back then but "well-educated and wealthy now." There were many
impoverished Jews both then and now, and antisemites have always
insisted that all Jews are rich and control the banks, both then and
now.

The last part is quite correct. However, previously we were not considered just "lower class". We were considered not even human. By and large that is all gone here in the US.


3. No one really cares that much anymore that someone is Jewish,
especially among the rich.

Point 3 asserts that wealthy people aren't antisemitic. Sorry to break
it to you, but there are plenty of antisemites in all economic
classes. Just as an example, there are still plenty of restricted
country clubs (and I don't think the members of these country clubs
are surviving on public assistance and food stamps).
It is the working class and the leftists who are making a big deal
about Jews. Often the wealthy, the powerful (at least in the US) are
Jewish.

The final point about the "working class" and the "leftists" is just
more of this fantasy obsession with "left-wingers" and "liberals" and
the statement that the wealthy and powerful are often Jewish is
downright antisemitic. I can't believe I'm reading such a statement on
SCJM.

There is a direct correlation between education and wealth. (Statistically speaking). There is also an inverse correlation between education and prejudice (again statistically speaking). Therefore there is also should be an inverse correlation between wealth and prejudice. From my anecdotal experience, there is such. The prejudice resides among the poor, poorly educated Christians who almost to a man vote Republican.


Shelly, your political prejudice is showing. Anti-semitism exists among

I am Libertarian. Not as extreme as Herman, but it is still the best classification for me. I also hated both Bush presidents (for different reasons).

some individuals in every racial, religious, ethnic and economic group.

Agreed.

If you want to see "Death to the Jews" signs, come to an ANSWER/ACORN/IAC/Women For Palestine demonstration on any topic in the

I don't know anything about those group.

metro NYC area. Despite those signs, I know better than to smear all

No thanks. I planned my escape from NY at 10 years old and completed the plan at 21.

Democrats.

Read again what I wrote. I did not smear all Republicans. I'll repeat it here for you: "From my anecdotal experience, there is such. The prejudice resides among the poor, poorly educated Christians who almost to a man vote Republican." Do you understand the difference between what I wrote and "smearing all Republicans"?


As I grew up in VA and MD and have relatives all along the old train crescent from DC to Dallas (including garden places like Kannapolis and Selma), I think that I know more about what has happened in the south over the past 40 years. There has been a marked decrease in anti-semitism there among white southerners. There still are pockets; it

Agreed.

isn't all gone. There is also anti-semitism among some

Agreed again.

Hispanic-Americans and Hispanic immigrants who have moved into the area.

.....and, as you said, there is some in ALL groups.



IOW, it is among the right-wingers that you see the hatred
of Jews, not the lef-wingers. If Omega doesn't think this exists, let him live in one of the poorer areas of the South (redneckville).


I'm not Omega, but BTDT, see above.

BTDT?


chsw
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