Re: Avigdor Lieberman, our realistic new Foreign Minister (Naomi Ragen)


"sheldonlg" <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
Fiona Abrahami wrote:
"sheldonlg" <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
Yisroel Markov wrote:
flaviaR@xxxxxxxxxxx said:

So, where/how do I contribute to the Temple building campaign?
Check out http://www.begedivri.com/shekel.htm
How can anyone who supports rabbinic Judaism (of any of the
denominations) want a rebuilding of the temple with a return to animal
sacrifice?

Why not, millions, perhaps billions of animals are sacrificed every day
around the world, don't you eat meat? Just because it happens in the name
of feeding people (and their pets), and happens behind closed doors of an
abbatoir it is no less bloody. What exactly is your issue with religious
"sacrifice"?

I want no part of a God that requires killing animals **for sacrificial
purposes**.

OK, as the God of Israel requires killing for "sacrificial purposes"
(whatever that means), then clearly you want no part of Judaism. Why don't
you become a Christian or a Buddhist or something (Muslims also make animal
sacrifices, so I guess Islam is not an option for you)?

Killing them for food is part of the natural order of things.

Exactly, so what is the problem with sacrificing animals, particularly if
you, or your appointed Cohen eats them?

Killing for **sacrifice** is barbaric -- and I don't care one iota if the
animal is subsequently eaten.

What's barbaric about it? The process of killing is exactly the same, the
meat gets eaten, the only difference is that it's public.

If the temple is rebuilt and animal sacrifice is resumed, at that point my
pride in being a Jew would turn to shame and disgust. Also, it would no
longer be **my** Judaism and I would try to distance myself from it as
much as a I could -- even to the point of saying "I was born Jewish, but I
am no longer a Jew".

By dismissing animal sacrifice (which He clearly asks for in the Torah)
you've already implied you don't want any part in Judaism, so why blame your
future disconnection with Judaism on actual application of the Torah.

Beware you who long for return of animal sacrifice. I venture to say that
the overwhelming majority of the world's Jewry is with me on this.

The overwhelming majority of the world's Jews already don't keep Judaism,
why would their continued refusal to keep halachah stop those who keep Torah
and mitzvot from keeping these mitzvot too if they get the chance?


Fiona


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