Re: Avigdor Lieberman, our realistic new Foreign Minister (Naomi Ragen)

On 2009-04-23, sheldonlg <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim Meushaw wrote:
On 2009-04-23, sheldonlg <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tim Meushaw wrote:
On 2009-04-23, Fiona Abrahami <fiona@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"sheldonlg" <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
Yisroel Markov wrote:
flaviaR@xxxxxxxxxxx said:

So, where/how do I contribute to the Temple building campaign?
Check out http://www.begedivri.com/shekel.htm
How can anyone who supports rabbinic Judaism (of any of the denominations)
want a rebuilding of the temple with a return to animal sacrifice?
Why not, millions, perhaps billions of animals are sacrificed every day
around the world, don't you eat meat? Just because it happens in the name of
feeding people (and their pets), and happens behind closed doors of an
abbatoir it is no less bloody. What exactly is your issue with religious
"sacrifice"?
Most people forget, as Josh pointed out, that most sacrifices are
actually eaten and not simply killed for the sake of being killed.
Irrelevant.

Incorrect.

For most of us in the civilized world, looking at a religion putting an
animal on alter and sacrificing that animal to God or gods produces a
visceral reaction of disgust. That the animal may be eaten afterwards
is irrelevant. YOU are incorrect.

For a large chunk of the civilized world, sacrificing an animal to eat
it also produces a visceral reaction of disgust. We don't pander to
them, either, and I don't hold off on eating hamburgers. Of course,
some also hold vegetarians aren't civilized.... :-)

An animal is brought to the altar. It's slaughtered (not on the altar),
just like Jewish shochets do every day. The only difference is the
parts you don't eat (like the kidneys) are then burned on the altar.
Meanwhile, the rest gets eaten, just like today. That's why it's not
irrelevant; your scenario wasn't entirely accurate.

I know you won't be convinced, but I wanted to explain the point
before dropping out.

I am holding up the yellow caution flag. It says "Proceed with caution
lest you want to lose the bulk of world's Jewry".

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.

Bimherah v'yamenu, as we (those Jews that do, that is, not you of course)
pray every single day. I know such things were taken out of Reform,
and I believe Conservative has them as optional in their prayer book,
but Orthodox prayers still include such wishes three times a day.

Tim

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Timothy A. Meushaw
meushaw@xxxxxxxxx

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