Re: The Kosher Pork

In article <gsa5b8$j1i$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Micha Berger <micha@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
sheldonlg <sheldonlg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, I am saying that there is a difference between translation,
interpretation and extension, and that they OUGHT to change your opinion
of the halakhah.

So, Micha, since it is YOU that claims it to be a TRANSLATION, I
challenge YOU to produce such a TRANSLATION.

1- I gave a three way split, and didn't actually show that translation
was the alternative I was pointing you to. My point was just that not
everything beyond the text is a rabbinic fence. For that matter, given
how late you date the text, I'm not sure why you assume it's older and
more primary of the two.

The text of the Torah, while not of Mosaic origin, is
clearly older than any written text known of the claimed
Oral Law.

2- You already got someone else explaining "don't want to find in your
house" is a likely idiom for "don't own". Which would be translation.

Is it? Or should the text be taken literally. I certainly
would take it literally.

3- You already proven you really don't care about the distinction.
Because the question wasn't whether the statement ws right or not,
it was whether you sould check them out before making judgment. Your
belligerant reply tells me all I need to know.

It is you who is assuming that Orthodox interpretations
are correct translations. The Orthodox of any religion
have difficulty in seeing that there can be other valid
points of view; the word "orthodox" means "right thinking".

You aren't R, neither in your attitude to scripture vs rabbinics, nor in
your autonomous decisionmaking. My curiosity about that was, after all,
what sparned my question. But I don't mean that as a condemnation -- I'm
not R either. I'm not assessing one system as better or worse than the
other. From where I sit, they're equally distant from ideal. But I'm left
wondering how much of the R affiliated community actually try to live by
R party line... And if the answer is "not much" (as the scjm population
suggests) will the R ivory tower realize and redefine that platform?

I do not see how you can claim he is not a Reform Jew.
He has studied and decided, and this is what Reform asks
the individual to do.
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are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hrubin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558
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