Re: Holocaust out of bounds?


On 23-Jul-2008, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:14:20 +0000 (UTC), flaviaR@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:


On 23-Jul-2008, mm <NOPSAMmm2005@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think if the meaning in use of the word genocide is going to stretch
from killing a whole ethnic group, a whole people, all the way down to
killing 10 people, maybe 5, maybe 3, because they belong to an ethnic
group, then there is plenty of reason, of need in fact, to make
distinctions among the various levels of killing, and there is
certainly room to say Never Again to things like the Holocaust, and to
think that Never Again has no application when considering withdrawing
from Iraq.

It's sophistry to knowingly use a word with one meaning one place and
another meaning somewhere else, in order to fool people into believing
something they wouldn't otherwise believe. I don't know that McCain
is doing this knowingly, and I'm not accusing him of sophistry. On
the other hand, someone who writes his speeches or gives him suggested
talking points, might or might not be using sophistry.

Regarless, the comparison of the two as if they are the same is false.


I agree with you - & I find it amazing that the real point is being lost:
that Obama will flip-flop on ANY issue, depending on to whom he is
speaking, and bridles at any attempt to make him defend his own
credibility.

If you hadnt' put "I agree with you" on the same line as the rest of
it, I might not have replied, but now I feel obliged.

FTR, that wasn't my point,

Yes, & I made that clear when I said ***&***

Susan
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