Re: Barack Obama on Israel

On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 01:28:12 +0000 (UTC), "Dan Kimmel"
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 18:45:54 +0000 (UTC), "Dan Kimmel"
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:59:41 +0000 (UTC), "Dan Kimmel"
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"Eli Grubman" <eli.grubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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But since we're discussing Hillary's anti-semitism, what about her
anti-semitic remark to Paul Fray, one of her husband's aides, back
in
'74? How can that be excused by putting it in context?

In 1974? When he was an unsuccessful candidate for Congress? BEFORE
he
married Hillary?

His marital status at the time is irrelevant. So is the timing of the
regrettable remark.

What is the source for this bubbehmeiseh?

Is this the first you've heard of it?

Is that your way of saying you don't have a source?

You can find it in just about any search engine. I ask again - is
this the first you've heard of it?

It's not my job to back up your claims. I ask again -- do you have a
source? (This is the third time now. Three strikes and you're out.)

It's not my job to do your Googling for you. I've found several
sources, so can you. In fact, this very issue was discussed here
within the past five weeks. This is the third time I'm asking you -
is this the first you've heard of it? Three strikes and *you're* out.

Not in the least. Do you really expect a Democrat to lead the war on
terror?

Absolutely. Bill Clinton, with advisor Richard Clarke, was doing so.

Except for the fact that terror was something that happened to other
countries then. Let's not forget who it was that invited Gerry Adams
to the White House when the IRA were bombing British civilians....

They
urged Bush to make it a priority. It was Bush and Rice and their
incompetent minions who decided it wasn't an important issue and ignored
the
indications that an attack on the US was being planned by al-Qaeda.

What "indications"?

Are you joking?

Here's the story:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=August_6%2C_2001%2C_President's_Daily_Briefing_Memo


Here's the actual memo:

http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

Where's your proof that these "indications" were ignored, as opposed
to the necessary intelligence not having been gathered in time? Next
you'll be telling us that he ignored Israeli intelligence reports
several days before 9/11 happened...



And after 9/11 Bush and his team decided it was a golden opportunity to
invade Iraq, which had NOTHING AT ALL to do with terrorist attacks on the
US.

And yet they invaded Afghanistan too. What about that?

What about it? The war in Iraq drew men and supplies away from Aghanistan
and now, five years later, the big news is that the Taliban is strong and
making a comeback.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18751649
http://www.teleclick.ca/2008/03/taliban-bombs-cell-phone-towers-in-southern-afghanistan/

The war in Iraq removed one of Israel's foremost enemies in the region
(don't you remember Scud missiles raining down on Israel?) Aren't you
at least thankful for that? Will you deride a "golden opportunity"
to attack Iran in the same terms? As regards the Taliban, they're a
spent force, in spite of recent hits. Afghanistan will never be a
Taliban-ruled country again.

Eli

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