Re: Erasing women's photos

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 06:14:53 +0000 (UTC), moshes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Eli Grubman <eli.grubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 06:18:42 +0000 (UTC), moshes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Eli Grubman <eli.grubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

It seems to me that women have an inflated (excuse the pun) opinion
of their ability to arouse men, whereas men are under no such
delusion as regards their ability to arouse women.

That's probably because that's how "civilized" society trains women.
Their clothes (or lack ot them) are _geared_ to excite/entice men.

Which is not to say the women are totally innocent! They're fully
aware of the effect of what they wear has on men and use it to further
whatever motive(s) they may have. Even women brought up in a 'closed'
society aren't exempt.

Nu? You're just proving my point.

OK, I thought you were suggesting that women were just the innocent
victims of civilised society.

We've become so accustomed to it, that anything different seems
"wrong" somehow. Says more about us than about Chareidim.

They would be the last people I would expect to engage in macho
posturing and locker-room banter.

Exactly. They try to keep their minds off such topics, and here
Joel calls them "evil" for that. Can you imagine?

"Evil" wouldn't have been my choice of word either, but I can't say
that I find what they (you?) do particularly logical - surely blurring
women's shapes would make more sense than blurring their faces?

They don't even use locker rooms, do they? :-)

I already posted that in the mikvah I go to every day, I have
_never_ heard anything like "locker room" talk. It isn't even
imaginable. I guess that's _another_ sign of our being "evil".
</sarcasm>

You're haredi? I had no idea.

Eli

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