Re: New Study of Israeli Soldiers



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Eliyahu <lrooff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In any case, the IDF as I know, will never use force against women,

How do you know these things? Don't you imagine that this might reflect
more what you would like to believe that what you are entitled to claim
you know?

IIRC, Giora is a veteran who served in the IDF. He doesn't have to
"imagine" anything, any more than I need to "imagine" what conditions
were like when and where I served.

He's also a human being.

Any human being whose beliefs about things they committed themselves
too, and which mean a great deal to them, is liable to have beliefs
which reflect more what they would like to believe about those things
than what they can really safely claim to know about them.

Any human being who is not in that position is freakishly unusual.

I'm not asking Giora or anyone else to imagine things about the IDF or
their own experiences. I'm asking him (and anyone else who has made
great commitments to a cause or an idea) whether he is willing to
consider that his beliefs might reflect what he wants and needs to
believe more than they reflect what he can safely claim to know.

It's a question everyone should be asking themselves, often.

Daniele

Why? To satisfy your curiosity? Why your speculations are higher
in rank than my experience over decades in active units?

Reading your thoughts only proves how little you know about Israel.
Your information come from the rating hungry media, where you
read or see unimportant events, in dramatic description, instead
of the important ones.
--
Giora Drachsler
Jerusalem, Israel


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