Re: Jews who hate Reform Jews

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On Oct 8, 2:07 pm, Matt Silberstein
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I have a simple solution: they should go back to the ghetto. I know of
a few places in the world that would be happy to let them live in
their own private world.
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Yes, like the United States of America. As American citizens, they have
the freedom to NOT interact with someone. Why do you think they should
be
forced to leave the country simply because they don't want to interact
with you?

My first thought was, should we also ask the Amish and Mennonites, etc
etc,
also to leave?

Do they also refuse to say things when spoken to politely?

I don't know. What difference would it make?

Because that is what started this.

And, again,
who asked anyone to leave?

You made the suggestion.

No, actually, I simply said that the way Cindy described *their* goal
the ghetto sounded like a good idea.

Here is what has happened. People seem to find the idea of living in
the ghetto horrible. And rather than examine whether or not my
analysis is accurate they attack me for suggesting the conclusion. But
no one seems to want to tell me how it is bad *from their
perspective*. I was trying to point out the irony involved in their
goals, how the world they want so resembles the world others wanted
for the Jews. No one has said I am wrong, they just attack me for
presenting the idea. But logic is not wrong because you don't like the
conclusion.

What was your analysis?

As far as I can tell from all of this, is that you were snubbed (many
times) wishing people good shabbos. Nobody likes being snubbed so you
suggest since they are wanting to be left alone,

Did you bother to read Cindy's defense of their actions? It was Cindy
who said that they don't want contact with anyone outside their group.
She also said they did not ignore me, but the contradiction between
her claims is a different issue. I suggested that *Cindy's*
explanation sure sounds to me like the ghetto.

a ghetto (a few
places in this world, which you didn't specify) would be happy to put
them in one to be left alone.

All I am wondering is why can't they be left alone here, or in Israel.
If *they* thought that a ghetto was a good idea (somewhere or another)
don't you think they would have gone their and done that by now?

Of course they can be left alone here. But then they run into the
problem of seeing people who are no members of their group. According
to Cindy that is a problem. Her solution is that I leave them alone.

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