Re: Let the Jews be delivered from their darkness!

On Apr 30, 9:23 am, "cindys" <cste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Tim Meushaw" <meus...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On 2007-04-30, bac...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <bac...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <f13n00$j8...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, flav...@xxxxxxxxxxx
writes:

On 29-Apr-2007, "Giorgies E. Geshahnna" <geshah...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Goyims are anti-Semitic by birth,
an inheritance from their grandfather Esav.

What?
This was a really stupid thing to say.

I see that you disparage the talmudic dictum "halacha hi b'yadua
she'esav sonei l'yisrael". It's so "nice" to hear people ridiculing
traditional Jewish thought on soc.culture.JEWISH.moderated :-)

Translation, please? That's the second time in this thread I've seen
the phrase, but still don't know what it means.

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It means "it's a known law that Esav is the enemy of Yisroel."
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Actualy, "Halakha" in that context means "formulated tannaitic
tradition".

The statement means "Halakha: Esav fundamentally cannot abide
Ya'aqob".

"Esav" was a Rabbinic code-term, and it does not apply to "gentiles"
in the abstract. The tradition refers to political ideas, not
religous or ethnic.

So while the statement is very much a Rabbinic one, to say it means
"all gentiles are born anti-semitic" is a crude and barely literate
rendition.

Jacko

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