Re: Beth HaWaadh Permits Eating of Kitniyoth by all Jews in Israel During Pesah

On Apr 6, 9:35 am, yacova...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 6, 7:06 am, "meir b." <meir...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





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On Apr 5, 1:39 pm, "Henry Goodman" <henry.good...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Apr 2, 3:11 pm, "Eliyahu" <lro...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 2, 7:39 am, "Jonathan J. Baker" <jjba...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>
In <> yacova...@xxxxxxx writes:

The Bavliim have mostly won; why begrudge us the last bits of
EY
tradition?
Qotniyoth has nothing at all to do with EY or its tradiiton,
which was
incorporated into the Babli. That part you leave out.
Bullcarp. See my blog post referenced above. If you must
resort to
insults, at least be accurate.
Have no idea at all what the above says.
AND THERE WAS NO GODDAMN INSULT. Jeezuz!!!!

I assume that you disagree with the prohibition against using the
names of heathen gods as oaths?

Eliyahu

I assume you imagine "Jeesus" is a deity's name.

And show me the prohibition to which you refer!

If you pay attention to the kriat hatorah tomorrow morning (Friday
Nissan 18) you will hear the pasuk "vesham elohim acherim lo tazkiru
lo yishoma al picha" (Ex 23:13)


And Jesus is a Jewish name. Hear of Ben Sira?

I suggest instead of trying to "chap" me, as if I am unaware of the
pasuq, ask me why I do not think writing (not even pronouncing, mind
you) "Jeesus" is a problem.

Is writing an Internet post "al pikha"? Since when do you just
imprecisely lump pesuqim as covering things explictly outside yede
peshutam????

Next please tell me which misvath lo ta'aseh this is, and by whose
count?

You people are always telling everyone here that the Written Tora
cannot be read wihtout the Oral Law. Nu, show me the Oral Law that
says this pasuq is a negative commandment.

Precision, precision, precision.

Since when must an act be one of the 365 negative commandments
for it to be prohibited? It could be a detail of a commandment, in
which case (as Rambam points out) it does not get listed, but is
nonetheless prohibited.

In any event,Rambam (Hilchot Avoda Zara 5:10), after citing the
negative commandment not to make a vow or an oath in the name of an
idol, adds, "Afilu l'hazkir shem avodat kochavim shelo derech shevua
asur, shne'emar 'lo tazkiru.' "

What is the definition of "shem "? What is the definition of
"lehazkir"?

Rambam himself gives an example of what the words mean, citing
the gemara in Sanhedrin 63, not to say "Meet me alongside avodah zarah
pelonit."

Can I write "Christ" in a scholarly article, or in an advertisement?

Irrelevant to the discussion. In your comment to which I was
reacting, you made two points: (a) "Is writing an Internet post 'al
pikha'?" and (b) "Next please tell me which misvath lo ta'aseh this
is, and by whose count?" My comment was restricted to (b), so that
whether or not writing is prohibited is irrelevant.

You use language as weapons to win a debate with little care as to
what the words mean. No legal system allows such seat of the pants
frivolous imprecision.

Where in this post have I displayed such a proclivity? I used
the word "shem" to mean "name" and "lehazkir" to mean "mention." The
Talmud and the Rambam use them that way as well. And where did you
get the idea that I am engaging in debate? I had the temerity to
point out that you made an error, and you ridiculously imply that
"shem" and "lehazkir" have some esoteric meaning. If it is your
contention that "shem" and "lehazkir" mean anything other than their
standard definitions, then explain what you think they mean, instead
of just implying that I misinterpreted them. Otherwise, you are
playing games to avoid saying the three words that apparently your
vocabulary lacks: "I was wrong."

This is not the first time. It is a style, as I see it.

And you wonder why I fail to adress you as a talmid hakham

I never wondered why you fail to address me as a talmid chacham.
The reason is obvious: I am not one, nor did I ever claim to be. All
I wonder is why you fail so often to avoid gutter language, which even
an am ha'aretz such as I am does not deserve.

Shabbat shalom and moadim lesimha.

Meir

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