Re: My Weekly Drash -- Ki Tetzei




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In article <d9ednT-yp-aV3GvZnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@xxxxxxx>, "Dan Kimmel"
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This week we get to ask if Milton Berle and Dustin Hoffman
(in "Tootsie") violate the law set forth in Parshah Ki Tetzei. "A
woman must not put on man's apparel, nor shall a man wear woman's
clothing; for whoever does these things is abhorrent to the Lord
your God." (Deut. 5:22) There's been some lively discussion on
what, exactly, is being prohibited here. Does it mean women can't
wear tefillin? Or pants? Are Scottish Jews prohibited from wearing
kilts? In fact the law has been understood as both a ban on pagan
cultic practices and, more particularly, on donning disguises to
commit adultery. The theory is that the man or woman would dress as
the other to move secretly among them to some assignation. When
there is no idolatry or sexual immorality involved, interpretations
tend toward leniency and following local custom. Pants on women are


Actually not. Here's a post I had on SCJM on whether it is permitted
on Purim to cross-dress:

Although the Rema Orach Chaim 696:8 seems to be lenient (as is the
Mishna Brura 696 # 30 provided that only one garment is used and
one can definitely distinguish that the person wearing the dress
is a man) others are very much against this (see: TAZ Yoreh Deah
182 in the name of the BACH YD 182; Beer Heitev OC 696 #13;
Pri Chadash Orach Chaim 688 #10). The Aruch Hashulchan 696 #12
also holds that this custom is not to be followed.



Actually, yes. I defer to your far superior knowledge on halacha, but your
quotation does not gainsay what I've said. You've picked a specific and
narrow case (where revelry and drinking is involved) and I'm talking about
everyday wear where no such confusion is intended.


not automatically forbidden (although Rashi probably would have
disapproved of short shorts) and Scottish congregants may wear the
plaid where appropriate. This is a great relief to those of us who
note the history of cross-dressing characters in theater and film
dating back at least to Shakespeare. I would hate to think that the
classic American film comedy "Some Like It Hot" wasn't kosher,
considering it was directed by Billy Wilder and featured Bernard
Schwartz (better known as Tony Curtis) in a dress.




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