Re: Pesah Cleaning Advice, Please



"cindys" <cstein1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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"cindys" <cstein1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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That's in case a mouse dropped a piece of chametz there.
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No, no, it's in case the butler dropped a piece of bread there
when he was selecting another bottle of wine for dinner.

I was surprised at Chano for his comment.

Me too. I can't believe that Mrs. Chano tolerates all those mice
in the wine cellar. They really should think about getting a cat.

LOL!

The mice don't come into the picture until several blatt later,
and that's only because they drop their bread while running away
from the weasels ;-)

That's a benefit you get, learning in English. Our teacher didn't
translate "achbar" and "chuldah".

My rabbi/teacher didn't translate it either. The other student and I
translated it, which is what makes this shiur so great. The (two) students
do all the preparation, reading, translating, etc. The rabbi steps in only
when we don't know a word or we're having trouble putting it all together.
What's a bardelas? :-)

I think it's a tiger?

I see you've learned Pesachim daf yud omud bayz, I'm impressed Cindy!

Thanks :-) I've been privileged to be able to participate in a
daily (6:15 a.m.) shiur with only one other student where the rabbi
is patiently allowing us (the two students) to do all the reading,
translating, saying it over, etc. It's been a dream come true.

I am _so_ happy for you Cindy. I hope it lasts a long time and you
advance as your heart desires.

This is the class I've waited for all my life.

It is treamendously satisfying to wait, pine, yearn for something and
_then_ get. It's so much more appreciated.

And if we end up moving to South Carolina, what am I going to do
then?

Wait, pine, and yearn all over again.

I'm sick over this. The gemara class in Charleston is a one-hour
dafweekly and it's only for men (who would have guessed?).

Are you sure? Did you ask if you could come?

Not that it matters. I'm already very spoiled and beyond the point
of wanting to sit and listen to a rabbi read, translate, explain,
etc for an hour a week (and that's assuming he would allow me to
attend the class at all).

So maybe you don't need it. If you're used to reading, translating
and to some extent explaining you can do that in Charleston as well.
For the "tough" stuff you could ask the rabbi not during the shiur.

The most rigorous class being offered in Charleston, believe it or
not, is the women's chumash class. The women learn with chavrusas
the chumash and all the meforshim (commentaries), then they meet
with the rabbi privately once a week to review what they've learned
or to have him answer any questions.

So maybe he would accept such an arrangement for the gemara as well.
And if the women are so advanced there, maybe you could find a
chavrusa.

I would definitely participate in that, but I still also want
gemara. I am wondering if my current rabbi would be open to allowing
my continued participation via conference call (I would happily pay
for the phone and the price of the phone calls). The other student
has already stated that he would be fine with that. Have any of the
other SCJMers ever been involved in a situation where a student was
participating in a shiur remotely? If so, how did it work out?
Apparently, the YU kollel also visits Charleston several times a
year. When they come to Rochester, they typically come for 2-1/2
weeks during the summer. I always request (and am granted) that one
of them can be my daily chavrusa for that time frame, and it's
great, but then, they're gone, and it's over until the following
summer.

You get to do a lot of waiting, pining and yearning. Sounds like the
bar bei Rav d'chad yoma.

Apparently, they come to Charleston more frequently, but they're
still not permanent fixtures.

I was just thinking, what about schools for your kids?

6:15 a.m. I'm impressed.

No, no. That's when the class starts. If I can, I try to review the
material for an hour beforehand.

5:15 a.m. I'm more impressed.

(In addition to having studied the night before). There's nothing
more miserable than going to class unprepared, so I try not to let
that happen.

espescially if you're the one who has to read, translate and explain.

And for the record, I'm a night owl. For me, getting up at 5:00
a.m. is like getting up in the middle of the night, but anything is
possible when you want it badly enough.

Yup.

Keep it up. Hope all works out well.

Moshe Schorr
It is a tremendous Mitzvah to always be happy! - Reb Nachman of Breslov
The home and family are the center of Judaism, *not* the synagogue.
Disclaimer: Nothing here necessarily reflects the opinion of Hebrew University
.



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