Re: Spilling out drops of wine at the Seder



On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:09:28 +0000 (UTC), backon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
: Again, show me a written source by a Rishon/Acharon (prior to the
: year 1900) that the reason why we lift the finger/spill out drops
: of wine at the Seder is because of "binfol eyivcha" and you get $100
: (cash, check or Paypal).

: Sheldon: Rav Elyashiv is my aunt's first cousin. I am a "ben bayit"
: at their house. Trust me: he doesn't for a second believe that the
: reason for spilling out drops of wine is because of "sorrow" for
: the poor Egyptians. He would have a conniption if he knew that he
: was being quoted with this perversion of Judaism.

I would want to see it in writing. (By your own criterion.)

In the meantime, with a reliable source telling me otherwise, I'm not
inclined to simply run with your assumptions about what R' Elyashiv
would or wouldn't say.

You're also avoiding the primary issue: Your willingness to call a
position with a history running from before the Yalqut to R' Aharon
Kotler some un-Jewish hyper-liberal assimilated PC / Christian value.

-mi

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