Re: Israel's Plague of Conspiracism
- From: backon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:38:57 +0000 (UTC)
In article <1138124903.618258.43060@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "q_q_anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxx" <q_q_anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> backon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> <snip>
>> As God is my witness: when this sad story is over, there will
>> be many prosecutions by the court for "accessory after the fact"
>> for felony murder for all those who suppressed the truth. All those
>> who could have spoken out and didn't.
>>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>
> you've done a good job, made many contributions. But, allow me to
> criticise in my aggressive style.
>
>
> This is a PREDICTION, **Speculation** Mixed in there as if it's part
> of the facts.
Wrong. It IS going to court (TA District Court) the middle of March.
In any case, I suggest that people like Jay Levin access the 3 Hebrew
websites I listed and print out the files on a color laser printer.
Then show the files (especially the chest X-ray) to any Israeli
doctor in the area for their candid opinion. Every medical person
in Israel who has seen it (and this includes a deposition by the
Chief of Radiology at Hadassah University Hospital) is stunned.
The evidence is overwhelming that a bullet was shot TOWARD Rabin's
chest.
Even I missed the utterly damning evidence that Rabin came in
intubated from a trauma ambulance. This alone throws out the
entire case and shows perjury at the trial in 2 major instances.
In any American court, the case against Amir would have been
thrown out just on these grounds alone let alone all the other
evidence that shows he didn't kill Rabin.
>
> I think it's very unlikely.
> No doubt you want it to finish like this but I think this speculation
> is way too optimistic. The sites are all in hebrew (inaccessible to
> half the jews, the many well educated jews in america) and the evidence
> now requires expert analysis of medical scans. Not the sort of thing
> laymen do.
I did ask Dr. Hadar to put out an English version of tbe material.
Josh
>
> There are lots of variations on the conspiracy theory, everybody out to
> make a name for themselves, taking good evidence and spinning it.
>
> Neither Natan Gefen, or Barry Chamish even bothered to even request
> that volunteers translate the documents into english. So that english
> speakers can see it with 'no spin'. Nobody has bothered either of
> their own volition.
>
>
> Israelis are too mentally scarred to realise they shouldn't be giving
> away land. They have no chance of dealing with this, and no interest in
> it either. As years go by it becomes of less and less relevance, as
> the people you want to prosecute will die off. Peres will die before
> being prosecuted.
>
> Dr Goodman, and Barabash will no doubt be protected by the court
> system. The Israeli Government don't want people to know about this,
> and I think neither do Israelis, because they don't see the big
> picture. They just see the PR relationship with the world. They want
> Israel to be seen as seeking peace, and this is what the left do for
> Israel.
>
> Not many people even bother to look at the evidence, and those that do
> may be put off by the complexity. People are too busy with their jobs
>
> I would speculate, that this isn't going to go to court.Because of lack
> of public interest. It won't even go down in the history books. People
> fear conspiracy theories. The biggest success is probably that it
> appears on
> www.answers.com
>
> and there will be a small success when Peres dies and people see
> www.shimonperes.com or those other spoof sites.
>
> I don't want to say it won't go to court. But Peres will be dead before
> it happens, and interest will be limited. The *only* chance that the
> conspiracy writers have , is the rabin memorial, where some people
> might be interested in hearing this. Not much hope, but there is hope.
>
> Let's not be overly optimistic or mix in speculation as if it's fact.
> Just to make it look like an erry brilliant prediction. Better to at
> least say you predict it. Rather than talking about the future as if it
> already happened.
>
> Look at me.. I am not a professor. But I had the *good logic* to be
> open to 2 possibilities.
> 1) That the plan was to Kill rabin
> 2) The plan was not to Kill him.
>
> If you had done that, and not mixed your speculation into the facts,
> then you wouldn't have changed your story of how it happened.
>
> The Style of conspiracy writers is throwing people off the scent.
>
> You are clearly extraordinarily clever and you communicate. Surely you
> can not write speculation into the evidence as if its part of the
> facts!!
> Chamish also works on hunches and what he wants to believe. But at
> least his hunches are better ;)
>
> Either way - everybody. Yourself, and Chamish, should write without
> speculation and without presenting as fact, material that has been read
> between the lines - like Motives.
>
.
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