Re: Those olive trees again




On 12/30/05 2:06 PM, in article i8o8r157uht57qno9uvgmvc3jlpob65e5l@xxxxxxx,
"Yisroel Markov" <ey.markov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:58:23 +0000 (UTC), Joel Shurkin
> <shurkin@xxxxxxx> said:
>
>> The government has ordered an investigation of the thousand or so olive
>> trees cut down on the West Bank. Maybe we will actually find out who is
>> responsible.
>>
>> http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/664080.html
>
> Good, because I've finally heard from the settlers, specifically from
> Yitzhar.
>
> Yitzhak Sandroi, who lives in a satellite "forward position" Mitzpe
> Yitzhar: "We are not interested in provocations or creating
> unnecessary tensions with our neighbors."


ROTFL

J


>
> Yigal Amitai, spokesman for Yitzhar: "The press has often charged us
> and the settlers from neighboring Alon Moreh and Ar Brakha with
> cutting down those trees. Nevertheless, despite an intensive police
> investigation, no evidence has been found, and not one of us has been
> arrested or detained in connection with this. Shouldn't presumption of
> innocence apply?
>
> "There have been instances when the settlers and the army cut down
> some trees near the settlements. This was done for security purposes,
> and although it did damage several Arab farmers, those groves had to
> go, as they were being used by terrorists. Many accuse the settlers of
> putting land above human life, yet they object when we try to protect
> our lives. Since we damage the Arabs in the process, we are charged
> with vandalism and inhumanity.
>
> "Both here and in Judea Jewish farmers suffer constant depredations of
> Arabs who set fire to fields, steal tools and cattle, and, yes, uproot
> trees. The police is never quick to investigate these incidents,
> citing other business and inability to conduct investigations in Arab
> villages. The press, too, is silent, since these incidents don't fit
> into its narrative of malevolent settlers and oppressed Arabs.
>
> "The worst part is that Jews from leftist organizations sometimes take
> part in acts of vandalism. Two weeks ago a large group of leftist
> activists, accompanied by Arabs, arrived at the Givat Ronen hill
> between Yitzhar and Ar Brakha. They uprooted dozens of olive tree
> saplings that we have planted there, while the nearby Army detachment
> did nothing. Nor did the press report the incident.
>
> "The land of Givat Ronen belongs to the state. Often the Arabs take
> over state land and plant their trees there, and the Army does
> nothing. When Jewish farmers attempt the same, the Army and police
> don't protect our property - on the contrary, if we tried to defend
> our trees, we'd be the ones charged with disorderly conduct. It's
> obvious that had we tried to damage Arab trees, the Army would get
> involved immediately."
>
> Yehuda Libman, who lives in a satellite "forward position" La'av: "We
> are not afraid of conflict, but neither do we seek to provoke. The
> place everyone is talking about for the last week is far from any
> Jewish village, so I don't see any reason for any of us to uproot
> trees there. [...] By the way, often those trees are not cut down
> completely, but rather pruned in such a way as to grow back in a few
> years. I think that this indicates provocations against us. I wouldn't
> be surprised if this is the idea of leftist Jewish activists, rather
> than the local farmers."
>
> Yisroel "Godwrestler Warriorson" Markov - Boston, MA Member
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