Re: Cost of kosher meat



In article <PZX_e.15647$7b6.6410@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "cindys" <cstein1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> "Janet E Rosenbaum" <jerosenb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:dhhgnn$u9p$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> backon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>> >Use GOOGLE and shop online. You can buy kosher chicken for half the
>> >cost above. I just checked a few sites.
>>
>> That would be great, but how much is the shipping?
>> On most meats that I have seen, the shipping costs more than the meat
>> itself.
>>
>> >What is outrageous are the US prices for kosher beef (which are at least
>> >two if not three times higher than comparable cost in Israel. The price
>> >differential relates to fresh vs. frozen meat).
>>
>> They're different products. Pre-frozen meat, especially after it has
>> been defrosted, always sells for less because it's been hurt by the
>> freezing process: the texture is worse, and it's more likely to grow
>> things.
>>
>> >If you want to make a lot of money, import frozen kashered Argentinian
>> >beef and sell online. The meat will have the hashgacha of the Israeli
>> >Chief Rabbinate.
>>
>> Fwiw, a fair number of people take (kashrut) issue with the frozen beef
>> because of some stage in the salting/soaking process --- it's not just
>> the real frummies, either. I know a few moderate people who won't eat
>> basar kafooi.
> --------
> Correct. The meat is supposed to be kashered within 72 hours of slaughter.


This a "takana" [ordinance] imposed in the time of the Geonim (1300
years ago).


> In my town, we call this "3-day meat." Above, you are referring to a
> halachic loophole which is designed to get around the 72-hour timeframe and


Using frozen meat is NOT a loophole but a perfectly acceptable way
of postponing melicha (kashering meat). It has been around for many
hundreds of years.







> provide a bigger window for the kashering process to occur. (I had thought
> it concerned rinsing the meat, but it may be that it was frozen before it
> was kashered). The non-glatt meat our butcher used to carry, in addition to
> being non-glatt, had also not been kashered within the allotted 72 hours
> (the processor took advantage of the loophole), and that was another issue
> that many of us had with it. The meat the butcher currently carries is glatt
> and has been kashered within the 72 hours.


The only problem is whether the meat had accidentally defrosted during
the 72 hours.

Josh


> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
>
.



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