Re: Israel vs Eretz Israel


"Micha Berger" <micha@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:df42u8$b5g$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:59:36 +0000 (UTC), yaakov_macales@xxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
> : I guess I am not as moral as you guys. When the Zionist movement was
> : formed, non-Jews were the large majority of the population in Eretz
> : Israel. The only options facing the Zionists were either ruling a
> : hostile population
> : that didn't want the Jews to come to Eretz Israel, or to expel
> : the population (or at least the encourage them to leave).
>
> That last point is, to my mind, the most moral choice. In any other war,
> the losers lost the territory and ARE expelled. Had Ben-Gurion done the
> same in '48, or Dayan and Meir (aleihem hashalom) in '67, we would not
> be facing this dilemma.
>

Not to compare the US to Israel, but there are those of us who do hold both
countries to higher standards. Israel should retain a united Jerusalem
because under Jewish rule we can be assured that ALL religious shrines will
be protected. Arabs can thrive in freedom under Israeli rule. It's been
many centuries since Jews could be assured of the same under a Muslim
regime.

It's the same reason many of us are disgusted with Bush and his minions for
the horrors of al Ghraib (sp?) and Guatanamo. The United States is not
supposed to act like a third world dictator. The everyone else does it
defense doesn't hold water.


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