Re: Oy, meh hayah lanu

In article <1125355448.375232.106310@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<yacovachi@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>Steve Goldfarb wrote:
>> Formal logic requires some sort of symbols, sure, but I don't think that's
>> what Herman is referring to. I think he just means logical thought. I
>> don't buy your requirement that logic is language-dependent.

>And i bet you never studied the subject. Which may in that
>disciplines terms, meanyou are monolingual.

I know the subject well. Formal logic does not depend on the
language, and a proof is something which can be produced by
the explicit rules, which can easily be written on one page,
or two if you use a complicated set. Keep the inventions of
philosophers trying to get too much out of the discussion.

>> I know I
>> don't think in words at all, at the very root level. I have "thoughts"
>> which I then translate into words, usually very quickly but not when I hit
>> a difficult concept that I have trouble expressing. But the concept exists
>> in my brain in a non-verbal format.


>And that "thought" is a function of the language you speak and culture
>dependent!!!!

Very slightly. Logic and mathematics are in a sense
context-free. This is why attempts made to contact
extra-terrestrial intelligence start with establishing
a mathematical framework.

>> Can't speak for what goes on in your head -- I suspect that many people
>> do, in fact, think in symbols (i.e., words) just as they see only in
>> symbols (and therefore can't draw, as an example)

>Nobody thinks in symbols.

I am inclined to agree with Jacko here. But this does
not mean that there is not a universal background, which
is not what the philosophers think it is.

>Once again, the knee-jerk uninformed reaction merley frustrates me.


>Jacko



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