Re: Oy, meh hayah lanu

In article <1125076126.531521.275560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<yacovachi@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>Herman Rubin wrote:
>> >So what is possible without a fundamental realm in which everyone is on
>> >the same page?

>> >Jacko

>> The fundamental realm which is needed is that of logic,
>> and that man has to be forever trying to learn.

>Logic is not absolute, nor universal. It is in fact a function of the
>language one speaks. Read Cassirer and Humboldt toname a few.

Deductive logic is universal. Inductive logic, which
is more difficult, is statistical decision theory.

There are more kinds of logic, but if it is logical,
it is expressible in a symbolic language, independent
of the "natural" languages, in which it is usually at
least difficult and clumsy.

>> For
>> man to learn how the universe operates, there cannot
>> be discernable miracles.

>Nonsense. Why is that?

>Anyway, they are generally no longer discernable *after* they have
>occurred. They can only be remembered.

Miracles make it impossible to deduce natural laws.

>However, nobody can fashion a nation by simply saying "we must all be
>logical" so I do not get you.

It is not sufficient; logic cannot provide information
about which alternatives are better. Moreover, logic
can show that one cannot have a logical society composed
of logical individuals, so it is necessary to compromise.

But logic can get us on the page.
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