Re: Permission to eat meat

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:09:10 +0000 (UTC), "Lisa" <lisa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
said:

>
>Steve Goldfarb wrote:
>> In <slrndfpgbn.isp.ronaaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Ron Aaron <ronaaron@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>>
>> >> Neither of them is prohibited, though.
>> >> You don't eat turkey because it's (passively) not prohibited - you eat it
>> >> (if you do) because it's actively "permitted" in the form of precedent, as
>> >> well as in this case an explicit Torah permission. QED.
>>
>> >No, as I explained. Turkey is not on the "do not eat" list.
>>
>> Actually it's included on the "specifically permitted to eat" list, which
>> establishes a category of permissibility and then specifies the
>> exceptions.
>
>Wrong. There are mitzvot asei and there are mitzvot lo taaseh. It
>doesn't matter how you read the words in the written Torah. We are not
>Karaites, for the trillionth time. We are commanded not to eat birds
>that aren't on the list. We aren't given permission to eat birds on
>the list -- we don't need permission for that. We are simply forbidden
>to eat birds that *aren't* on the list.

As I understand Vayikra 11, it lists the *forbidden* birds. The
implication being that all the rest are kosher.

Insects are tamei, but there's a "permitted list" of four locusts,
while animals and fish are kosher or not according to their physical
features.

So I don't understand what you said in another post: "The only
question about turkey is whether or not it is considered,
halakhically, to be a variant of chicken, which is not forbidden.
There were some who had no source to say that it was indeed such a
variant, and they didn't eat it. When those who had a long tradition
to support the fact that it is a variant of chicken informed those who
didn't know it of their tradition, the problem went away."

What "long tradition" could there be when turkey is a New World bird?

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