Re: Permission to eat meat

In <1123788123.690105.211180@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yacovachi@xxxxxxx writes:


>Steve Goldfarb wrote:
>> >That does not mean everything is prohibited unless permitted.
>>
>> I didn't say that. I'm not saying it's presumed prohibited. I'm saying
>> it's not presumed ANYTHING. It's not "presumed," it either IS permitted
>> for some reason, or it IS prohibited for some reason. There's no
>> "presumed."

>Source for "undefined"?

>I am not aware of "undefined" acts. How do you deal with this
>undefined? Ask a rabbi? So then he defines it as one or the other.
>How do you think he analyzes? He looks to see if it is prohibited in
>some way. If not he says it is permitted.

He determines the applicable precedent. Is it "fire," the rules of which
are understood, or is it something else?

>> >But as to unadressed categories, no act is assumed prohibited in
>> >general. Is riding a bicycle prohibited because the Tora does not
>> >address it? Playing video games? Rooting for the Mets? Drinking root
>> >beer? Stopping to smell the roses?
>>
>> Are you suggesting that there are no halachic implications to any of those
>> acts? I find that hard to believe.

>I am most definitely.

Really... highly unusual. So if I'm riding to shul one shabbos, and I stop
to play "Grand Theft Auto" with the full nudity on my playstation, and
then spend my davening time thinking about the Mets, and drinking root
beer without a hechsher, etc., there's no halachic questions there? No
action exists in a vacuum.

>> Well, according to the Ner Israel crowd anyway any such activity would be
>> bitul Torah. Shouldn't you strive to make ALL of your acts
>> mitzvah-oriented?

>Perhaps. But if the mind needs down time to relax in order to
>facilitate doing misvot, then that down time is not a waste at all, and
>maybe your Ner Israel friends have overlooked something to espouse an
>ideal in an extreme manner.

Well, they would agree that you need to relax but they would have you do
it in a Torah-centric way, e.g., drawing ketubot as my rebbe did. Plus,
that's what shabbos is for. Anyway, sure they're extreme -- but so what?
I'm sure most people consider you pretty extreme, too.

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