Re: JAPAN and WHALES




CRAP. Most of the world realises that there is no justification for
hunting
whales. The number of whaling nations is tiny.


> Japan is acting in compliance with the provisions of the International
> Convention for the Regulation of Whaling, an international agreement to
> which Australia is a signatory.


BULL***! What scientific research does Japan do on the whales that it
slaughters other than a taste test?


> Rather than sink the lawful Japanese whaling vessels, perhaps you
> should be suggesting to the Australian government that it is not
> appropriate that they remain signatory to this agreement, which states
> quite clearly in its VIIIth article that scientific whaling is allowed.


All very nice but Japan doesn't do scientific whaling. The whaling it
does
is purely so that Japanes can eat whale meat.


> The Australian government has the right to withdraw from the
> convention, but they have failed to do so, despite the conventions
> clear purpose.


Why would it? The feral nations who support whaling would just love
that.
They'd decimate the world's whale populations in a few years.


>> just to satisfy the pathetic greed
>> of the immoral, rich & influential Japanese versions
>> of Mr Burns & his likes....

> There is nothing immoral about catching whales.



Bull***. Whales are intelligent creatures. Human beings don't kill
intelligent creatures. Hell, we don't kill a lot of unintelligent
creatures.
If we did there'd be a lot less Japs chasing whale meat.


>> This is NO cultural thing.

> Well, it is Japanese culture to



eat anything.


> But essentially whaling is about putting food on
> plates,


Correct. It has nothing to do with science.


> to relieve pressure from other over utilised food resources, to
> make for sustainable means of feeding their shrinking population.


What other utilised food sources. There are plenty of cows, chickens
and
other creatures.


> Also consider that whale harvest is a natural means of obtain protein
> rich meat, whereas beef production has involved destroying the natural
> environment to make way for grazing lands and so on.


Not in Australia. We've got lots of land for beef production and no
shortage
of beef.


> Whaling is about environmentally friendly as you could get.


Not to the whales it isn't.


>> If they want culture, let them
>> go out in a leaky wooden boat with hand spears,

> That would be incredibly inhumane.



No it wouldn't. Let the Japs take their leaky boats and if any of them
reach
the Southern Ocean they can take as many whales as they can carry.


> Why do you wish to see the whales killed using ancient methods, when
> there are far more swift means of killing them (instantaneous death in
> the majority of cases)?


http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Ethics/a-pa-de.htm


>> not in huge metal ships with explosive harpoons

> Explosive harpoons are the most humane method there is,



http://www.highnorth.no/Library/Ethics/a-pa-de.htm


> and a damn
> sight better than the means employed by Australians when they were
> killing them mercilessly for oil back in the good old days.


Australians learned their lessons many years ago and stopped whaling
completely. The Japs still do it.


> Have you seen photos of the whales being hauled on to the Japanese
> ships in recent days? Did you see bloodied corpses? Bloody water?
> I didn't - I saw totally intact whales, with no blood in the water to
> speak of.


So now you're claiming that an explosive charge doesn't cause any
blood!


> The Japanese research programmes currently run at a loss.


They aren't research programs you idiot. They're food gathering
programs.
Look at the hypocrisy in this photo:
http://archive.greenpeace.org/oceans/whales/12janactphotobig3.jpg

How much meat do they need for tissue samples?


Where is the scientific data from these alleged scientific programs?
Scientists have tried to get copies but there is none available for any

price.



> Whaling programmes won't be profitable commercially until the
> commercial moratorium is lifted, and quotas are set in line with the
> IWC's Revised Management Procedure.


GOOD. Then let's hope that moratorium is lifted and let the whales live
in
peace. In the meantime we should start doing scientific studies on the
Japanese to find out why they're still arrogant bastards, even after
two
atomic bombs.

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