Irving revisited


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World-renowned Historian David Irving raised several forensic and
logistical
issues impeaching the credibility



In the recently concluded libel trial wherein British faux historian
David Irving attempted to censor an American historian,
Judge Gray said (Excerpts - see URL for complete document):

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-13-01.html

"I am satisfied that in most of the instances cited by the Defendants
Irving has significantly misrepresented what the evidence, objectively
examined, reveals."

"I have concluded that Irving has misrepresented the evidence."

So he was so hevily involved in the Jewish view that it is probable that he
could not come to any other conclusion.


I mean we alredy have you zionists the perfect judas goats leading and
finding Jews for the nazis, something you do not want to know about ant
more, and you certainly dont want anyone else to know about.

You belong to a disgusting section of the Jewish population and no doubt the
main supporters of the cover up , and as I said before, which those ill
informed governments and law courts so heavily populated with Jews so I am
sure you can make sure that the zionists supporters are heavily represented
in the handling of any case.

LETS HAVE A MOMENTS SILENCE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DIED FOR DEMOCRACY AND
FAIRPLAY.
Casualties in WW2

Soviet Union 25,568,000
China 11,324,000
Germany 7,060,000
Poland 6,850,000
Japan 1,806,000
Yugoslavia 1,700,000
Rumania 985,000
France 810,000
Austria 525,000
Italy 410,000
Great Britain 388,000
USA 295,000
Holland 250,000
Belgium 85,000
Finland 79,000
Canada 42,000
India 36,000
Australia 29,000
Albania 28,000
Spain 22,000
Bulgaria 21,000
New Zealand 12,000
Norway 10,000
South Africa 9,000
Luxembourg 5,000
Denmark 4,000
TOTAL 58,353,000


AND A FULLY AUTHENICATED UNQUESTIONED 5M MORE WITH NO AGENDA OF FREE LAND OR
REPARATION DONATIONS TO A COUNTRY OF THEIR JOICE.

WHAT IS AMAZING IS YOU ARE CHAASING IRVING WITH THIS RECORD BELOW NOT BEING
OF INTENSE INTWEREST. I'M SURE IF THEY/HE WERE NON JEWISH THE NON JEWS WOULS
BE VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT HE WAS DOING TODAY.

Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
the Nazis.

HERE WE HAVE A JEWISH WITNESS IGNORED AND THE MENTION OF THE COVER UP OF
EVIDENCE, NOT BY THE NAZIS???

Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@xxxxxx)
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case
-----------------

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater
detail.

Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
----------------
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
he wrote:

'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three
weeks
notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,
to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was

SO ANOTHER COURT CASE GOES THE WAY OF THE ZIONISTS.

If Rassinier was a revisionist according to Lipstadt WHAT WAS LIPSTADT A
FILTER WHO ONLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM PROPERLY ORIENTATED ZIONIST JEWS?

apparently the only
people who had it right were zionist jews.
Any non Jew who tried to tell their story, and a lot of them seemed to
disagree with the version the zionists wanted, would have been pilloried,
abused and ridiculed. They did and they were.
http://us.ixquick.com/do/metasearch.pl?cat=web&cmd=process_search&language=e
nglish&query=rassinier

Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
witnesses.
http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html


http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
r=293321480
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735

http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm

Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html

Perhaps the ADL, so called anti defamation league explains it all.
You see tha ADL or Anti Defamation League is just for the Jewws. Like
everything that Jews do it appears to be only for one group, Jews, to
advantage only one group, the Jews. And then they claim it is anti semitism
because they isolate themselves from the rest of the community.
http://www.supportmelgibson.com/adlinsultschristians.htm


AND THE ZIONISTS DID NOT WANT OR APPROVE RESISTANCE SO THAT THESE GHETTO
POLICE THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WERE PROBABLY FULLY PAID UP MEMBERS OF THE
ZIONISTS.

The Jewish ghetto police always had the option, she said, of "throwing off
their uniforms and joining the rest of us" - a point that Yitzak Zuckerman,
a leader of the Warsaw ghetto uprising, made in his memoir.
http://www.theexperiment.org/articles.php?news_id=2139


http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
with PhD's in various fields who
also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. Until
recently, there was never a forensic
examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures
are incomplete. After the fall
of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
into the Soviet Union or ended up
behind the Iron Curtain changed their names to assimilate, many civilians
died in the war, many died in the
concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
civilians in the Soviet Union died
of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
Documentation Center in Israel has a database of 3,000,000 alleged victims
of Nazi
extermination. But as you can see HERE
(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
every name is listed at least
twice, some as many as five times!

Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

Name Town District Region
Country Bday Source

Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1879 list of victims from Germany
Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1879 list of deportation from Berlin
Friedemann Adolf Berlin Berlin Berlin Germany
1905 list of deportation from Berlin

It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas)
or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious "witnesses" or tortured
confessors. There are no written orders for
extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
show no smoke and flames
belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. The photos and records
show there was not enough coke or
crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
lied about how many minutes it takes
to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not contain significant amount of
carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed
'em with the exhaust from the locomotive or used the exhaust from the
crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
heads and requisitions for tons of
Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
method for extermination.
http://www.vho.org/
The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
impractical/impossible, malicious
atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, who hated Hitler and
perpetrated by Jews, who were always
looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
extorted billions from the US Treasury,
Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
fraud. The Holohoax also makes
those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
on Stalin alone.

A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.




The Jews declared war against Germany
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html

On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily
Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews
of all the world unite", and followed with:
'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war
on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany
revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one
body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his
business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his
miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's
people.'
The German government was removing Jews from influential positions and
transferring power back to the German people. This declaration of war by the
Jews on Germany was repeated throughout the world. The first boycott of
Jewish business concerns came after this Jewish declaration of war in April
1933.
March 19

The Zionist Jewish Role In - Causing World War II
"In 1941, a Jewish writer, Theodor N. Kaufman, wrote Germany Must Perish.
Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by
a very simple method: the mass sterilisation of all German men and women
between the age of puberty and sixty years."

From a pre-1993 edition of John Tyndall's Spearhead magazine
12-9-3







"I accept the evidence of Evans and Longerich that this picture
seriously misrepresents the available contemporaneous evidence."

"To write, as Irving did, that Hitler was "totally unaware of what
Goebbels had done" is in my view to pervert the evidence."

"David Irving brought what turned out to be an unjustified
libel suit against Deborah Lipstadt and lost. One factor was
that the charge of libel was demonstrated to be unfounded,
the other was that David Irving decided to plead his own case
in court and grandstanded instead of focusing on substantive
issues.

"He lost, and the entire triaL is a matter of public record
that he himself spreads through his website.
He also decided to go to Austria, fully knowing that he was
banned from the country and that a warrant was out for his
arrest for violating laws that he admits that he violated.
Once again, all of this is a matter of public record, and
the public is entitled to draw their own conclusions about
the man's motives and sanity.


YEAH WELL TALKING ABOUT COURT RESULTS AND SANITY, LOOK BELOW, THIS WOULD BE
SOMETHING TO AFFECT YOUR SANITY AND TRUST IN COURTS,NOT MINOR MATTERS OF HIS
TORY THAT SOME PERSONS ARE TRYING DESPARATELY TO COVER UP FOR VERY OBVIOUS
INTERESTS.

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the
term
that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
------------
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
community
in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council
in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing
the
Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.
It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
annihilation.

The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority
of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in
the
agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division
of
the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was
that
Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other
camp
and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
to another."

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
General
v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in
the
activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
the good intention of good Becher'.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
in Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements." (ibid)

Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
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Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense." (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:

"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
disclose." (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,


"Sane people do not falsify and mistranslate historical
documents and then try to silence critics who point this
out. Sane people do not announce in advance that they are
going to travel to a country from which they have been
banned and with an arrest warrant for them outstanding.
Sane people do not plead guilty to violating a lwas, and
then scream "foul" when they are punished, nor do they
violate the law again from their prison cell in a
telephoned interview." (Eugene Holman, alt.revisionism,
March 5, 2006)

Goodness did he repeat the facts and you hadnt silenced th old guy yet?

Sane people do not advocate laws to prevent open discussion of a subject
then try to use prosecution of any person under those laws to claim that the
prosecuted person does not have the facts.
That is not fredom of speech of domocratic.
And a kangaroo court heavily biased in favor of a certain view is not the
way to clear up doubt no matter how much you quote it's results.

You zionists worked with the nazis and covered up the whole mess after the
war, and have been covering up ever since.
It is not just Irving that claims there were no gas chambers , non jew
victims if allowed to dspeak at all claimed the same.
The only ones that supported the story/s were those who received substantial
returns for supporting the story.

Lipstadt was continually trying to condemn Rassinier and his version of
events, who as simply a non Jew who wanted to tell his story makes lipstadt
a very strange uinvestigator.

156 In relation to the Reinhard camps, having claimed before the trial that
there were no gas chambers at Treblinka, Sobibor or Belzec, Irving accepted
at trial that he could not challenge the accepted figures for the numbers of
Jews killed at those camps which were 700-950,000,200,000 and 550,000
respectively. He again later explained his concessions as having been made
"formally" in order to speed the trial along, adding later that he had seen
no documentary evidence to support the figures for those killed. I have
already given my reaction to that response.




(Bellville's Scott Bradbury, a leading revisionist scholar)
The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/




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