Re: Ping Budgie




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Barry George is reputed to have an IQ of 75 as tested in prison.

According to both the Grauniad and the Times, and maybe others
in December 1981, he joined the Territorial Army, 10th Battalion
Parachute Regiment, based at White City, using the name Steve Majors.

Is it normal for the Parachute Regiment to accept recruits
with an IQ of 75 ?

Good question. Frankly, I always believed that anyone who thought that
jumping out of a perfectly serviceable aircraft was a good career move,
desperately needed their head examining.

More recently, contributions to this forum (including those from your
good
self) have provided ample evidence that social influences (such as a
person's occupation, culture, schooling, family environment etc.) and
biological influences (like nutrition, exposure to toxins such as lead
and
alcohol etc.) all influence a person's IQ.

Of course, an individual's IQ score may or may not be stable over the
course
of the individual's lifetime.

As you know, only too well.


But what about getting away with using a phoney name* to join the
Parachute Regiment
in the middle of an IRA bombing campaign ?

Surely they must check up on the identities of people who want to join ?

It's not like the French Foreign Legion.

He was training for 11 months, including weapons training, and it was
his own decision to leave.

There's something decidely fishy about this, IMO.

I'm not sure which of your sources said that he left of his own accord

Telegraph

" Mr George also had an interest in guns and the military, and joined his local
Territorial Army regiment in the 1980s, but left after failing to complete his
basic training."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2484893/Jill-Dando-verdict-What-now-for-Barry-George.html

He left rather than was slung out.

....

but I
am pretty sure that your understanding of what the role of the TA was way
back in 1981 is fairly sketchy. Maybe that's why you've inadvertently
confused his "29 training days" (which, for the uninitiated, is around three
or four compulsory weekends, a few drill night piss-ups,

....

So do how do you think a supposed loner like Barry George would have coped in
such an environment ? Wouldn't he have stuck out like a sore thumb ? Has he
ever given any indication, anywhere, of being "a team player" ? Or the sort
of person others would want to have around, someone they could rely on ?
Any NCO would have singled him out as being unsuitable after the first week.
Please don't try and pretend otherwise.

....

and two weeks
annual camp leaping around on Cannock Chase playing soldiers) with 11 months
of continuous military service.

....

I'm not realy that bothered about what Barry George, sorry Steve Majors was
doing over those 11 months but rather what the MOD TA clearly weren't doing
- checking out his identity. And this at a time when all service establishments
will have been on a state of alert.

It also transpires that Barry George was subject to epilectic fits.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7530544.stm

None of which seem to have ocurred during his TA training.

....

Or why you have such a clear recollection of
the date of the Chelsea Barracks bomb. I have to confess, I had to look it
up.

....

So did I, yesterday morning. On wiki. As soon as I realised for the first time
that he was supposed to have been in the TA in 1981, but under an assumed name.
Bells started ringing.

A man supposedly with an IQ of 75, and suffering from epileptic fits, a loner
with no social skills, joins the TA Parachute Regiment under an assumed name
during the height of an IRA bombing campaign, is allowed to continue his training
for 11 months, and then leaves, and nothing is said about it.

There is something very fishy about this.


michael adams

.....



Perhaps the MoD can help with your investigations. Try
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/ContactUs/FreedomOfInformationInformationRequest.htm








Use an assumed name if you feel a bit nervous.

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Falcon:
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