Re: If Invented Today, Would Islam Have a Chance?

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Nawaz <nawaz_chillizone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Dear Folks

Islam was destined to become a world religion and to create a
civilization which stretched from one end of the globe to the other.
Already during the early Muslim caliphates, first the Arabs then the
Persians and lat..................snipped

You snipped out the history! why? It attests to the greaat
contribution of Middle Eastern culture to Civilisation! Why do you
want to Sully this with Anachronisms.

False prophets carry no weight.

I mean you could as easily point the finger at christ and suggest
nobody knows what he did until about 30. He hung around with twelve
men. Sometimes he hung aroung and stayed in the houses of prostitutes.
He was around when his country was occupied by an Empire and opposed
fighting against them. He preached that one should suffer rather then
fight back and kill people. He told people to give money to the
occupying power.

Absolutely Correct. Christ was nothing like the false prophet/murderer
Muhammad. And without murdering and threatening people as the false
prophet Muhammad did, Christ's followers increased because He preached
about God wanting mankind to be saved, by scripture alone, by faith
alone and by grace alone......not by threats of beheading and murder as
the false prophet Muhammad forced upon the people. Christ would even
have stayed at your house and welcomed you to his, unlike Muhammad who
would have your head cut off and *** down your throat.

If iut was today he would have also lived in a country which related
to WWI and WWII as you claim Mohammad would have. And the Temple
Mount would have the same place as the black rock of Mecca you
mention. The Jews do not necessarily have equal treatment of Women.
One of the Us Presidential candidate hopefulls just the other daty
said he believed in Biblical creationism over Evolution! And as for
Muslims believing in a flat Earth frankly I don't believe you! The
Flat Earth idea is really popularised in the eighteenth/nienteenth
century by Western christians and has nothing to do with the Bible or
Koran! WEhat Islamic teaching says it does?




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(4) If a megalomaniac, such as Muhammad, were to appear on the scene
today, the civilized world would sooner or later react, and would at
least insure that his crimes would be confined to his own area of the
world (Saudi Arabia), still a festering pus-filled carbuncle on the
backside of the world! He would not have had the opportunity to pass
on his blueprint of conquest, responsible for the longest record of
genocide and slavery known to history, responsible for hundreds of
millions of victims, many times over the combined victims of Hitler
and World Communism! Islam was until quite recently, spread
exclusively by the sword! Of the estimated 1.5 billion Muslims of the
world, less than 10% are Arabs, or of Arabic descent, the remainder,
are descendants of societies conquered and enslaved by Islam over a
period of more than 1,300 years!


Ever heard of the "Holy Roman Empire"? Ever heard of the Slave trade
sancioned by the Church in South America when Portugal and Spain
carved it up? What did the "Christian" people do to the natives of
Australia, America and Africa?


I guess you will have to ask the Europeans that took part in it. As I
recall, the holy Roman Empire was not thrilled with the reformist Martin
Luther and others as well.

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