Re: The New Democrats - War Heroes

In article <memo.20051202054847.688O@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>In article <l5Njf.587$f41.475@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, shogun@xxxxxxxxx (shogun)
>
>wrote:
>
>> To prove that you know what you are talking about, which you obviously do
>> not. Let me make it simple for you. Which Article or Amendment to the
>> Constitution defines how one goes about "seizing power" as you put it. After
>> all, if you say the Constitution defines how to seize power, you must know
>> which Article or Amendment you are referring to. However, if the Article or
>> Amendment defines how to seize power, then it must be legal to do so, yes?
>> And your complaint is invalid.
>
>How ignorant you are. Allow me to be of assistance:
>

My dumb ass friend, that happens to be the Declaration of Independence, and
not the U.S. Constitution. It has nothing to do with seizing power from the
Royal Clown King George III. Before you attempt to understand US history and
the US Constitution, maybe you should study up on the Magna Carta.

>In Congress, July 4, 1776
>
>The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
>
>When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
>dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to
>assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which
>the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the
>opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel
>them to the separation.
>
>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that
>they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among
>these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these
>rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from
>the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes
>destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish
>
>it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles
>and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to
>effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that
>Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient
>causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more
>disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by
>abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of
>abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to
>
>reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to
>throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security
>-- Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the
>necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. --
>
>The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated
>injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an
>absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a
>candid world.
>
>He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the
>public good.
>
>He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
>importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be
>obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
>
>He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of
>people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the
>
>Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
>
>He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and
>
>distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of
>fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
>
>He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly
>firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
>
>He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be
>elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have
>returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the
>mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions
>within.
>
>He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose
>obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others
>to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new
>Appropriations of Lands.
>
>He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws
>
>for establishing Judiciary Powers.
>
>He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their
> offices,
>and the amount and payment of their salaries.
>
>He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers
> to
>harrass our People, and eat out their substance.
>
>He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of
>
>our legislatures.
>
>He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil
>
>Power.
>
>He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our
>constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts
> of
>pretended Legislation:
>
>For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
>
>For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which
> they
>should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
>
>For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
>
>For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
>
>For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
>
>For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offences:
>
>For abolishing the free system of English Laws in a neighbouring Province,
>establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so
> as
>to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same
>absolute rule into these Colonies:
>
>For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering
>fundamentally the forms of our Governments:
>
>For suspending our own Legislature, and declaring themselves invested with
> power
>to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
>
>He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and
>waging War against us.
>
>He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed
>the lives of our people.
>
>He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat
>
>the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of
>
>Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally
>
>unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
>
>He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear
>Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and
>Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
>
>He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring
>on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known
>rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and
>conditions.
>
>In every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most
>humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated
> injury.
>A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a
> Tyrant,
>is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
>
>Nor have we been wanting in attention to our Brittish brethren. We have warned
>them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an
>unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances
>of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice
>
>and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to
>
>disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections
> and
>correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of
>consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces
>our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War,
>in Peace Friends.
>
>We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General
>Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the
>rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good
>People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United
>Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they
>are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political
>connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be
>totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full
> Power
>to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do
>all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.
>
>And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection
>
>of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes
>and our sacred Honor.
>
>John Han***
>
>Button Gwinnett
>Lyman Hall
>Geo. Walton
>
>Wm. Hooper
>Joseph Hewes
>John Penn
>Edward Rutledge
>Thos. Heyward, Junr.
>Thomas Lynch, Junr.
>Arthur Middleton
>
>Samuel Chase
>Wm. Paca
>Thos. Stone
>Charles Carroll of Carrollton
>George Wythe
>Richard Henry Lee
>Th. Jefferson
>Benja. Harrison
>Thos. Nelson, Jr.
>Francis Lightfoot Lee
>Carter Braxton
>
>Robt. Morris
>Benjamin Rush
>Benja. Franklin
>John Morton
>Geo. Clymer
>Jas. Smith
>Geo. Taylor
>James Wilson
>Geo. Ross
>Caesar Rodney
>Geo. Read
>Tho. Mckean
>
>Wm. Floyd
>Phil. Livingston
>Frans. Lewis
>Lewis Morris
>Richd. Stockton
>Jno. Witherspoon
>Fras. Hopkinson
>John Hart
>Abra. Clark
>
>Josiah Bartlett
>Wm. Whipple
>Saml. Adams
>John Adams
>Robt. Treat Paine
>Elbridge Gerry
>Step. Hopkins
>William Ellery
>Roger Sherman
>Samuel Huntington
>Wm. Williams
>Oliver Wolcott
>Matthew Thornton
>
>
>
>
>
>Lord Cerne Abbas
>
>Humpty Dumpty Bush fell off the Iraq wall.
>Humpty Dumpty Bush had a big fall.
>All his spin doctors and all the President's men
>couldn't put Humpty Dumpty Bush together again.
>
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>
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>
>http://www.john-lennon.com/
>
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