Re: White Phosphorus Not a Chemical Weapon/ NOT BANNED



In article <XRkff.19265$8R6.8299@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Beacon" <beacon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>"shogun" <shogun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> In article <yT8ff.1702$d4.486@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Beacon"
><beacon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> >"shogun" <shogun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >> In article <Pt3ff.17296$wh7.5616@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Beacon"
>> ><beacon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >"shogun" <shogun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >> >> In article <dlhn28$6mh$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, lep
>> >> ><lepetitemort@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >> >shogun wrote:
>> >> >> >SNIPPED Bull***
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4442988.stm
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The debate about WP centres pa....leftist propaganda bull***
>SNIPPED
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> White phosphorus is a common allotrope of the chemical element
>> >phosphorus
>> >> >> which has found extensive military application as a smoke-screening
>> >agent
>> >> >and
>> >> >> for target marking. It has also been used as an antipersonnel
>weapon.
>> >> >> Opponents of its use consider it a chemical or incendiary weapon.
>> >> >
>> >> >It is illegal to use it as a weapon against ANY tartget!
>> >>
>> >> Those targets should have run faster, then they wouldn't have been
>> >targets.
>> >> Only you leftists and opponents of its use consider it a chemical
>weapon,
>> >> unless of course, the leftists are using it.
>> >
>> >
>> >Pot kettle black.
>> >
>> >First I am not leftist. Second you just ADMITTED they were TARGETED which
>is
>> >why it is illegal! Third some of them were civilians so why should they
>run
>> >anywhere? Fourth, if Saddam used it you would say it was evidence for
>WMD!
>> >Fifth, isn't it terrorists who say things like "if you civilians ran
>faster
>> >or were not in the area you would not be a legitimate target"?
>> >
>> >
>> First, I apologize....you are a leftist apologist.
>
>I am not left or right. I am above all that "enemy of my enemy" stuff.
>
You are neutered! Yes, you are the type that does not take a position until
you determine which side is more vocal. Right and wrong make no difference to
you. If you choose to be on the side of islamoterrorism, that is your
decision.
>
>> Second, I admitted nothing.
>> You called them "targets".....actually you called them "tartget" and I am
>just
>> correcting you and using your terminology.
>
>[Your words]
>****Those targets should have run faster, then they wouldn't have been
>targets.****
>[End your words]
>
Yes, I should have called them tartgets if I was to use your terminology.

>If you meant something something totally different to what you actually
>wrote then you should have written what you meant and not meant to write
>something else.
>

After that piece of mental midgetry I have no doubt that you are a comedy
writer. Did you write this also? :

Abbott: Alright, now whaddya want?

Costello: Now look, I'm the head of the sports department. I gotta know the
baseball players' names.
Do you know the guys' names?

Abbott: Oh sure.

Costello: So you go ahead and tell me some of their names.

Abbott: Well, I'll introduce you to the boys. You know sometimes nowadays they
give ballplayers peculiar names.

Costello: You mean funny names.

Abbott: Nicknames, pet names, like Dizzy Dean -

Costello: His brother Daffy -

Abbott: Daffy Dean -

Costello: And their cousin!

Abbott: Who's that?

Costello: Goofy!

Abbott: Goofy, huh? Now let's see. We have on the bags - we have Who's on
first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: That's what I wanna find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third -

Costello: You know the fellows' names?

Abbott: Certainly!

Costello: Well then who's on first?

Abbott: Yes!

Costello: I mean the fellow's name!

Abbott: Who!

Costello: The guy on first!

Abbott: Who!

Costello: The first baseman!

Abbott: Who!

Costello: The guy playing first!

Abbott: Who is on first!

Costello: Now whaddya askin' me for?

Abbott: I'm telling you Who is on first.

Costello: Well, I'm asking YOU who's on first!

Abbott: That's the man's name.

Costello: That's who's name?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy on first.

Abbott: Who!

Costello: The first baseman.

Abbott: Who is on first!

Costello: Have you got a contract with the first baseman?

Abbott: Absolutely.

Costello: Who signs the contract?

Abbott: Well, naturally!

Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

Abbott: Every dollar. Why not? The man's entitled to it.

Costello: Who is?

Abbott: Yes. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

Costello: Who's wife?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: All I'm tryin' to find out is what's the guy's name on first base.

Abbott: Oh, no - wait a minute, don't switch 'em around. What is on second
base.

Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

Abbott: Who is on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third - now we're not talkin' 'bout him.

Costello: Now, how did I get on third base?

Abbott: You mentioned his name!

Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing
third?

Abbott: No - Who's playing first.

Costello: Never mind first - I wanna know what's the guy's name on third.

Abbott: No - What's on second.

Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third.

Costello: Aaah! Would you please stay on third base and don't go off it?

Abbott: What was it you wanted?

Costello: Now who's playin' third base?

Abbott: Now why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

Costello: Why? Who am I putting over there?

Abbott: Yes. But we don't want him there.

Costello: What's the guy's name on third base?

Abbott: What belongs on second.

Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

Costello: You got an outfield?

Abbott: Oh yes!

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: I don't know, I just thought I'd ask you.

Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell you.

Costello: Alright, then tell me who's playin' left field.

Abbott: Who is playing fir-

Costello: STAY OUTTA THE INFIELD! I wanna know what's the left fielder's name.

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I'm not askin' you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: Because!

Abbott: Oh, he's center field.

Costello: Look, you gotta pitcher on this team?

Abbott: Now wouldn't this be a fine team without a pitcher.

Costello: The pitcher's name.

Abbott: Tomorrow.

Costello: You don't wanna tell me today?

Abbott: I'm tellin' you now.

Costello: Then go ahead.

Abbott: Tomorrow.

Costello: What time?

Abbott: What time what?

Costello: What time tomorrow are you going to tell me who's pitching?

Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching. Who is on fir-

Costello: I'll break your arm if you say Who's on first. I wanna know what's
the pitcher's name.

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott & Costello: THIRD BASE!

Costello: You got a catcher?

Abbott: Oh, absolutely.

Costello: The catcher's name.

Abbott: Today.

Costello: Today. And Tomorrow's pitching.

Abbott: Now you've got it.

Costello: All we've got is a couple of days on the team.

Abbott: Well, I can't help that.

Costello: Well, I'm a catcher too.

Abbott: I know that.

Costello: Now suppose that I'm catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and
their heavy hitter gets up.

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Tomorrow throws the ball. The batter bunts the ball. When he bunts
the ball, me being a good catcher, I wanna throw the guy
out at first base. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.

Costello: I don't even know what I'm talkin' about!

Abbott: Well, that's all you have to do.

Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Now who's got it?

Abbott: Naturally!

Costello: If I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta catch it. Now
who caught it?

Abbott: Naturally!

Costello: Who caught it?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Naturally!

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

Abbott: NO, NO, NO! You throw the ball to first base and Who gets it?

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's right. There we go.

Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

Abbott: You don't!

Costello: I throw it to who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING!

Abbott: You're not saying it that way.

Costello: I said I throw the ball to Naturally.

Abbott: You don't - you throw the ball to Who?

Costello: Naturally!

Abbott: Well, say that!

Costello: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING! I throw the ball to who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Ask me.

Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: SAME AS YOU!! I throw the ball to first base and who gets it?

Abbott: Naturally!

Costello: Who has it?

Abbott: Naturally!
>>Third, if I was a civilian, I
>> wouldn't have been in the same houses as islamofascist terrorist bastards
>in
>> the first place.
>
>Tell that to the people of Mai Lai or the US citizens who died in WACO. I am
>no supporter of fundamentalist Christians either but what happened at WACO
>as not justified. It is no wonder when you go to someone elses country that
>you then tell people where they can live. And the idea that they shouldnt
>have been there is nothing to do with the fact that they WERE THERE and it
>is illegal to target non combatant civilians with White Phosphorus EVEN IF
>they are in the same place as enemy.
>

Personally, I dont care who you support or don't support. And if anyone is
that ignorant to be in the same building as the islamofascist terrorists, they
are as much a mental midget as you.

>>Fourth, I would not have said if Saddam used phosphorus that
>> it was a WMD or a chemical weapon, because I know that WP is not a
>chemical
>> weapon.
>
>It is a chemical which produces noxious fumes and burns like a blister
>agent.If used against people as a weapon it is a chemical weapon. If used
>for the intended use (flares or smoke screening) then it is not a chemical
>weapon. It is only a weapon when used as a weapon. In Falluja (and elsewhere
>by the British it seems) it WAS used as a weapon.
>
It is a chemical, it is not a chemical weapon, or a WMD.
>
>> It is you that says it is a chemical weapon. Another incorrect
>> assumption on your part....which is only one of many incorrect assumptions
>> that you have made.
>SAdly , I cited international treaty and I cited the geneva convention.
>You only have your opinion and no backup evidence.
>
Read some past postings, and you will see it is not my opinion, but the
opinion of others. There is no international treaty or law governing its use.
>
>> Fifth, no, islamofascist terrorists just blow civilians up
>> without any concern for them one way or the other.
>
>This is a rebuttal of my point that :
>....terrorists say things like "if you civilians ran faster
>or were not in the area you would not be a legitimate target"?
>
>I didnt mention Islam. Dont other terrorists do the same? so why single out
>Islamic ones if you are saying it is a human rights violation? The point is
>that Coalition troops ARE violating human rights laws. They were caught
>topprturing and now they are caught using Chemical WMD. They lied to cover
>this up.
>
Troops that were caught doing things contrary to US Military Code of Justice
were charged and tried or awaiting trial. Your point is moot.
>>
>> Finally, the islamonazis should have run faster. After all, the interior
>of
>> the building was illuminated for them. They should have seen the exits.
>
>You dont know what you are talking about! The chemical is also used for
>SMOKE SCREENING. But you are trying to avoid the issue by being flippant. In
>doing so you ADMIT that the chemical was targeted into buildings! The
>military denied that but you ADMIT it!
>
Of course it was thrown into buildings you dumb ass. The question is whether
there was knowledge that the building was occupied or not. Once the WP is
tossed into the building for illumination purposes, and someone comes running
out, once can assume it was occupied. Ooooops, sorry....carry on, no big deal.

>> And
>> there was enough light to prevent them from tripping over obstacles in the
>> dark. The fact that they died is their own fault. And the only good
>> islamofascist terrorist is a dead islamofascist terrorist, and even they
>are
>> no good.
>
>Spoken just like the people who said "The only good Injun is a dead Injun".
>That was your own native people. Now you want to visit the same on the
>native people of Iraq?
>
>
Never used that phrase before. How nice of you to compare the American Indian
to some islamofascist terrorist bastards. By the way, it is Indian, not injun,
you racist ***. You have admitted that you are a racist ***.

you are a beacon of stupidity.
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