Re: moslem shoe bomb terrorist sentenced

Patrick Dolan <NoBrits@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:7328m11qokn6mgjooe0ihfhgp9cfbshrrn@xxxxxxx:

> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:18:10 GMT, Chip Anderson
> <b_anders*NOSPAM*@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>Patrick Dolan <NoBrits@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>news:lfb5m1hkej2d2gqf5t95h0coj3bdkmeug1@xxxxxxx:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:09:00 GMT, Chip Anderson
>>> <b_anders*NOSPAM*@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Norman Leonski" <norman_leonski@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>news:1130429429.621658.190140@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip Anderson wrote:
>>>>>> Patrick Dolan <NoBrits@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>>> news:v191m15asf84n8n62kj6i9srilcdterrl1@xxxxxxx:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:20:41 GMT, Chip Anderson
>>>>>> > <b_anders*NOSPAM*@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>Their rights are looked after by government no matter what wage
>>>>>> >>they are earning. In the words of Walter Williams, "The idea
>>>>>> >>that minimum wage legislation is an anti-poverty tool is simply
>>>>>> >>sheer nonsense."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > How would the government prevent some *** sweat shop from
>>>>>> > paying 50 cents and hour to those desperate enough to take it,
>>>>>> > if the employer could legally offer that wage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would the government want to prevent that? Simply because
>>>>>> you label them "assholes"?
>>>>>
>>>>> There will always be people who have no consideration for the
>>>>> suffering of others. I'm talking about someone who will hire a
>>>>> person who is desperate for money and then work them 16 hours a
>>>>> day so that they can afford to meet the minimum requirements of a
>>>>> living
>>standard,
>>>>> ie: roof, food and sanitation.
>>>>
>>>>Those desperate folk can always look for other work. It's not
>>>>slavery and they are not tied to any particular employer.
>>>>
>>>>> If this type of employer is allowed to hire "slaves" at this type
>>>>> of wage, then our country will back up into the middle ages.
>>>>
>>>>Once again, it's not slavery and your dire predictions are without
>>merit.
>>>>
>>>>> Where do your feelings on this matter derive from? Have you had
>>>>> some life events that have made you feel this way?
>>>>
>>>>I arrive at my conclusions not through "feelings" but through
>>>>reason. Try it sometime.
>>>>
>>>>>>A certain minimum wage is not a right.
>>>
>>> LET THEM EAT CAKE!
>>>
>>> The minimum wage is in place to prevent the abuse of the working
>>> class. You obviously disagree. However, the laws that created the
>>> minimum wage are in place and will always be enforced to protect the
>>> people they were enacted for. If those laws were not correct, they
>>> would have been challenged and repealed. They haven't been.
>>
>>Of couse they haven't. Folks like youself are fooled everytime into
>>voting for demagogues who support such things as the minimum wage.
>>After all, it's "for the children" or "for the working man" or some
>>other such nonsense designed to evoke feelings rather than reason.
>
> You are actually the first person I've spoken to that doesn't think
> that having a legal minimum wage is a good thing.
>
> I'm interested in learning why you think the way you do about this.
>
> Would you explain it to me?

I'll be more than happy to. Here, I'll let Matthew B. Kibbe speak for me
as his narration reflects my thinking on the matter.

"The simple truth about the issue is that any minimum-wage rate that is
forced onto the market will have only negative effects on the distribution
of economic justice. Minimum-wage legislation, by its very nature, benefits
some at the expense of the least experienced, least productive, and poorest
workers."

Here is a link to the reasoning:
<http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa106.html>


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Chip

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