ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for June 23, 2012



End Time politics, River wobbles, Beijing mushroom cloud, Prince
Charles warning, Shen-9 spaceship, 10,000 year clock, G20 backroom
discussions, Colorado fireballs, UFO documentaries

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ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for June 23, 2012

Recently there's been alot of talk in the media of Obama possibly
losing the presidency in November, with even members of Obama's
administration admitting it is very possible as Romney seems to be
gaining ground and backed by super wealthy. What kind of impact would
having a wealthy Republican like Romney, with ties to the very
wealthy, as president, have on preparing the general public in the
U.S. for the Pole Shift? What would the Zetas say is the likelihood of
Obama actually losing the presidency?

Austerity vs compassion is a theme not only in the US but also in
Europe and throughout the industrialized world. We stated at the start
of the ZetaTalk saga that the world would find itself in a second
Great Depression, and that has been the case for several years, though
called a recession by the posturing politicians and compliant media.
Obama has taken the stance of doing whatever is required to prevent
riots and homelessness, while it is abundantly clear that his
opposition would favor the rich, as Bush did, and turn its back
utterly on the rest of the citizens. This will polarize the US
electorate, and become clear as the presidential debates occur in the
Fall of 2012, with a predictable outcome. The rich are considered the
1%, with those affected by draconian austerity measures the 99%. Do
the math.

How this battle plays out in the electorate is getting a preview in
Europe, in Greece for instance. It polarized the politicians and
electorate alike, to the right and left, but the outcome was a vote to
stay in the EU and continue to battle with Germany’s demands for
strict austerity in Greece. Obama has been rumored to advise Merkel to
ease back on her austerity demands. Why does this battle exist, when
as we have predicted the barter system will rule, and paper money
everywhere become worthless? Our warnings about the severity of the
Pole Shift, and the sociological changes to result, are not taken as
the final word by many leaders, who thus plan instead for a
continuation of the current economic structure.

How much wobble will affect the level of the rivers? It was noted
that grows shallow river Yenisei during the magnetic twist. There are
photos of the incidents. June 13. June 14: no magnetic twist, same
place. June 15 and June 16 the water level has not changed. June 17,
same place.



The river Yenisei drains north into the Arctic. As such, it will drain
slowly when the Earth wobble causes the N Pole to push to the side,
and linger there longer, than when the N Pole finds its water slung
around the Equator as is the normal case. In a tilt, such as occurs
during the Earth wobble when the N Pole is pushed away, there tends to
be pooling of water in the Arctic, which of course pushes upriver or
causes a river draining into the Arctic to drain more slowly. This is
a simple proof of the Earth wobble, from the standpoint of river
height when compared to the magnetosphere blasts. Excellent,
scientific work!

Any comment on the mushroom cloud over Beijing?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/natural-or-man-made-giant-mushroom-cloud-appears-over-beijing/

This cloud got attention in the media only because it is shaped like
the mushroom cloud caused by a nuclear explosion. Odd atmospheric
clouds or effects have been emerging since Planet X began wafting its
greasy tail over the Earth, and the Earth wobble began stirring the
upper and lower layers of the atmosphere. Neon clouds with a chemical
glow, halo clouds showing rapid up and down drafts, light towers
caused by methane alit with the fire and smoke rising, earthquake
clouds showing by their choppy lines the emissions coming from
compressed rock beneath – all of this becoming common because of the
presence of Planet X. The mushroom cloud is nothing more than
exhibiting up drafts that occur when layers with different
temperatures and water content collide, violently. This too will be on
the rise.

Prince Charles sent a message to the UN sustainability conference
in Rio recently. His message was the first time I have seen a public
official urgently warning the various countries to prepare for a
"catastrophic" climate change event. Is this the beginning of urgent
warnings of imminent catastrophes to be filtered indirectly to the
public so they clue in to begin to prepare? Why is it Prince Charles
and not some astronomer or astrophysicist? [and from another]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18479724 “Like a sleepwalker, we seem
unable to wake up to the fact that so many of the catastrophic
consequences of carrying on with 'business-as-usual' are bearing down
on us faster than we think, already dragging many millions more people
into poverty and dangerously weakening global food, water and energy
security for the future," he said. "One thing is clear. We need to be
much more informed about the actual state of the planet. We do not
have nearly enough knowledge on which to base the decisions that will
be the best for the long term. Until we do, we expose ourselves to the
mounting danger of major shifts in policy that are not well conceived,
but come as panicked responses to crises that could have been
avoided."

Is Prince Charles talking about the mythical Global Warming issues or
the pending Pole Shift? The latter issue seems to fit his words more
closely. Global Warming after all was supposed to be gradual, with
lots of time to make adjustments as the need became obvious. The Pole
Shift will be sudden. Charles in fact is using a word we, the Zetas,
used extensively when first starting ZetaTalk – catastrophic. We
called the Pole Shift the “cataclysms” in the very first page ever
written for the ZetaTalk Pole Shift section. What is he talking about
when he says “need to be much more informed about the actual state of
the planet”? He is clearly not talking about Global Warming, which has
had so many fact gathering studies ongoing for years. He is
complaining that NASA is not informing heads of state!

What “panicked response to crisis” is he worried about, when Global
Warming is a slow moving crisis, projected to put the globe in danger
only in 100 years or so? He fears closed borders for those on the
British Isles, a trend that is already apparent. Britain will drown,
and take to boats to even save its people, with only a diminished
island popping up here and there. Oh dear, no time or resources for
royal treatment of dear Prince Charles! The “decisions that will be
best for the long term” involve saving the monarchy, clearly. Charles
and the Queen have been discussing the cold shoulder they are
receiving around the world. The royalty will die with the Pole Shift,
that is becoming clear. Why would Charles go public with such a
warning? He is not present in Rio, as royalty does not stoop to such
lowly activities. But he wishes to buttonhole the Heads of State that
he feels should change their priorities. Save the royalty!

China just successfully launched her Shen-9 spaceship and in one
of the infrared photos there is clearly one light spot near the
spaceship during its flying into the space. http://news.163.com/12/0619/04/84B7MPNK0001124J.html
Is this a genuine UFO flying around the spaceship? What's its purpose?
Does this launching have anything in common with the testing of X-37B,
who will continue to observe Planet X after satellites failure? Why
was the launching not interfered by the Council of Worlds like it was
in the case of Russia's launching?


China is not considered at the helm of the cover-up, as the US and
their ally in the cover-up, Russia, are. China has even been open
about their ghost cities which they know can be seen on satellite
views. China has shown the cities on the Moon taken by their Chang'e-2
moon orbiter, which NASA had prevented the public from seeing. Thus
the warnings given to the US and Russia, as they setup in space to
peek at the trajectory of Planet X, all the while keeping the truth
from the public, are not given to China. Why would UFO’s zip by, in
clear sight of the cameras reeling off this historic flight to China’s
public? The awakening proceeds, based on the ability of the public to
experience these mass sightings without anxiety. This was considered
such an opportunity!

Multi-billionaire Jeff Bezos is already known for his Blue Origin
space-travel project. Now he is building a clock in West Texas (above
the waves during the pole shift) for no apparent reason at a cost of
at least $42 million dollars. The clock is designed to work for
10,000 years. Maybe Mr. Bezos does not trust the U.S. Naval
Observatory will be able to keep accurate time in the future, or maybe
he knows all about the pending pole shift and has decided survivors
will need such a clock. Is this just another example of a mega-wealthy
individual planning for the pole shift and the Aftertime without
informing us, the common man? Would the Zetas care to comment on this
expensive, 10,000-year clock? [and from another]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304543904577395164138218638.html
What Makes Jeff Bezos Tick? A $42 Million Clock, for Starters. '10,000
Year' Timepiece Is One of Amazon CEO's Many Side Projects. Mr. Bezos
has already gained some fame with his Blue Origin space-travel
project. But the 48-year-old, whose net worth is estimated at $20
billion, is quietly putting time and money into some other less-public
side projects that have little or nothing to do with online shopping.
He has financed a group, the Long Now Foundation, that is building
what he calls "The 10,000 Year Clock" deep inside a mountain on his
West Texas property, not far from his rocket-launch site. "The reason
I'm doing it is that it is a symbol of long-term thinking, and the
idea of long-term responsibility," said Mr. Bezos, who has spent at
least $42 million on the timekeeper. "We humans have become so
technologically sophisticated that in certain ways we're dangerous to
ourselves. It's going to be increasingly important over time for
humanity to take a longer-term view of its future." [and from another]
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/virgin-galactic-space-flights-to-start-within-a-year-richard-branson-says/story-e6frfq80-1226138747325
September 16, 2011 A number of private companies are rushing to fill
the gap left by NASA, which ended its 30-year shuttle program in July
with the completion of the final Atlantis mission to the International
Space Station (ISS).

What is the relationship between Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic
plans to put those with money into space and perhaps even build a
hotel up there, and Jeff Bezon’s past efforts on his Blue Origin space
travel project to shuttle to the ISS? Both these billionaires know
what is coming, for planet Earth. They both know how the common man
will suffer. Has this caused them to fund survival camps, moving the
masses from the cities to places that are self sustaining? They are
part of the elite, and plan only for the survival of they and their
friends. What then is to be made of a 42 million dollar clock? If
Prince Charles is talking to Heads of State via the media, asking them
to help the British royalty perpetuate itself, the elite are also
using the media to speak to their fellow elite. This is, in essence, a
telegram or a phone call, a card in the mail or a candy-gram. He is
saying he wants them all to be concerned about the long term, not just
the immediate future, and by that he means they should be concerned
about bunker security rather than beach homes.

Are the Zetas able to comment on the G20 meeting in Mexico, with
all the face-to-face meetings that take place guaranteeing much talk
about Planet X? (Right on the heels of the 2012 Bilderburg meeting
too). Obama and Putin have already had a private 2 hour one-to-one
meeting in Mexico for example and reportedly appeared very tense in a
press conference afterwards, not even looking at each other.
Supposedly talking about Syria, for which Russia is mainly an arms
seller, why the chilly atmosphere afterwards if only discussing a run
of the mill diplomatic/trade issue? - (which could easily be resolved
through other channels without the need for the leaders to meet in
person.) I imagine the leaders are aware of the recent ZT regarding
the battle behind the scenes over the cover-up and their statement
that the disclosure argument of the younger guys is winning, resulting
in world leaders being pressed to make announcements in the near
future, else end up being the bad guys too when the punches take down
the cover-up for them, if they do nothing. But what do the leaders
think of this? I expect Obama would rather have other world leaders
with him on the day if he is to be the one making the announcement,
rather than standing up there alone on the podium, but are the others
willing to step up and show some real leadership for once? Like the
saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it
drink." [and from another]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161952/Presidents-Barack-Obama-Vladimir-Putin-meet-1st-time-Russian-regained-power.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Obama and Putin are clearly at odds over Russia sending war planes to
Syria when Assad will undoubtedly use them to further oppress his
rebelling citizens – mowing down the innocents such as toddlers and
the aged without a second thought. Putin remembers the Iraq invasion
under Bush, where Russian contracts were canceled and friends of Bush
tried to dominate the oil fields in Iraq. He also remembers Libya,
where Russian contracts there were threatened by western interests.
Then there is the long-running battle over long range missile sites in
Poland and eastern Europe. Putin considers Syria to be on the same
continent as Russia, just as the US might consider interference in
Mexico by Russia to be a threat. If Israel sends black ops into Iran
to assassinate their nuclear scientists and blow up their
installations, then in Putin’s mind sending war planes to a Russian
ally near Israel is turnabout, fair play. All of this is territorial
posturing. As we stated, going into the End Times, there would be lots
of posturing and sabre rattling, but none of this would result in war.

This link is to an article about the grounding of firefighter
planes in Colorado due to "Falling Debris and Fireballs in the sky". I
have relatives in this area and wonder what is going on here. There is
also a new smaller fire in that area that was caused by "highway
mowing equipment" supposedly. From what I understand, that was about
the same time that the fireballs were reported. Could the Zetas tell
us if this is indeed tail wafting? [and from another]
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/06/21/meteor-shower-grounds-springer-fire-air-support/
A Pueblo air-dispatch center began receiving reports of “balls of fire
or something in the air” June 20. The planes were near Lake George
when a pilot noticed debris falling from the sky, said Ron Roth,
spokesman for the Rocky Mountain Area Coordination Center. The pilots
were not sure whether it was “space junk” or a meteor, officials
grounded flights to make sure no aircraft were hit, Roth said. Planes
were allowed to resume flights about 90 minutes later. The incident
near the fire was first reported near Badger Mountain, a 11,294-foot
peak in Park County along U.S. 24, about 65 km (40 miles) west of
Colorado Springs. [and from another]
http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/ci_20901998/u-s-50-closed-due-spike-buck-fire
Motorists hit roadblocks Wednesday on U.S. 50, about 14 miles west of
Cañon City because of a small wildfire burning on Bureau of Land
Management land.

Is debris in the tail of Planet X starting groundfires in Colorado?
Indirectly, yes. It is known that hot gasses from fires can rise high,
alighting to look like a fireball, but these views are from ground
based observers. The Colorado observations were from airplanes, with a
different vantage point. Meteors are seen in the night sky because
they burn up in the atmosphere, and after hitting the ground are hot
rocks, accordingly. When hot air is rising from wildfires over a vast
area, the air above is less able to cool meteors, and thus they would
be seen burning as they dropped to the ground. Such still burning
meteors, coming in at an angle, would likewise remain hot after coming
through a hot air mass, and thus be able to set the ground afire.
Without the pre-existing groundfire, these meteors would not have set
fires, however.

There's a new program coming to National Geographic - "Chasing
UFO's". Are all these UFO programs on TV meant to make it easier for
people to accept the truth?

In step with the increased mass sightings around the world, the
establishment is allowing documentary films on UFOs to be aired. The
cover-up crowd would prefer they not do this, but others in the
establishment argue that they will lose credibility if they ignore the
obvious. Ignoring the increasing sightings, often mass sightings seen
by entire cities, looks like a cover-up, and that would raise even
more questions in the public mind. So documentaries, using past
footage and reports, are being trotted forth. It is not a sincere
attempt to educate the public, nor a sincere admission that a cover-up
has been ongoing, but merely a reaction on the part of the
establishment to avoid future embarrassment.
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