Re: Indian Minister for HRD Dr Arjun Singh-- - quite a show.......

Tavleen Singh is full of blatantlies and fabrication as most of the
anti-reservation supporters are. She doesn't have a clue that this law
was passed by India's almighty parliament and he's just the
implementor. Here's what will help the likes of Tavleen earn some merit
- a course in Indian Civics 101.

Rahul baba is insicere like all Gandhis and Nehrus before him when it
comes to trying to loosen the unjust and unfair grip of upper castes on
power (the grip that has been established and continued by illegal
means of nepotism and favoritism for the upper castes and inhuman and
racist arrogance against the lower castes) and letting the meritorious
of the backward classes have a fair share of India's progress and
development. As a true Gandhi/Nehru, he's trying to play both sides of
the issue by saying both sides are right in their arguments. Well, make
up your mind Rahul baba. If you are so equivocal about implementation
of this law, why did you not oppose it when it was being discussed in
the parliament. Did you not know at least from your education at
world's elite institutions that you should be the first one to respect
and follow the laws that you yourself have helped enact. What should
that tell you about your own merit? You don't seem to display even an
ounce of it by your public utterances.

So Tavleen's argument that, this all is being done to prop-up Rahul's
prospect in U.P.'s politics doesn't hold any water. Rahul like
Gandhi/Nehru's Congress before him is bent on distancing himself from
the just causes of backward classes. No wonder Mulayam and Laloo
(erstwhile Congress guys) have found prominance in the political space.

The fact of the matter is, all political parties including BJP have
enacted this law through consensus. There were dissenting voices mainly
Shiv Sena who deserve credit for being streightforward in saying what
they believe in. Anybody who is protesting the implementation need to
go back to the MPs and ask them to repeal this measure.

The protestors are acting in defiance of their job description and they
are illegally using govt. property and resources in protesting and
furthering their own narrow interests. At a minimum they should be made
to lose their govt. jobs. Those govt. doctors were hired to treat
patients and to not neglect duties and obstruct other doctors from
doing their job.


Mortayee wrote:
India, just that other Backward Country
Tavleen SinghPosted online: Sunday, May 28, 2006 at 0000 hrs Print
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How ironic that the BBC should be running a series called Giants,
comparing India and China, at the very moment that our government is
making it clear that it will ensure that India is forced back into its
earlier pygmy days. How ironic that India should have begun this year
by so overwhelming the World Economic Forum's annual meeting in Davos
that people still talk of the 'India Everywhere' campaign as one of
the most successful ever. By the time Sonia Gandhi, Manmohan Singh and
their Marxist allies have finished with us we will look back on that
campaign with nostalgia because it is as if they are conspiring to
ensure that we regain the depths of backwardness in which we dwelled in
those dark socialist days. A whole new meaning will attach to the
acronym OBC when we go back to being just that other backward country.

Ask anyone what India needs from its government and the answer is:
infrastructure. From the shining chambers of corporate Mumbai to the
poorest mud hut villages of rural India I meet people daily who spell
out India's needs in almost the same words. Bijli, pani, sadak, of
course, but also schools, colleges, sanitation, healthcare and housing.
Without these things we will continue with the shaming situation of
having more than 30 per cent of our people living in conditions so bad
that animals in developed countries live better.

Ostensibly it is to help the wretched and the educationally backward
that the Government gives us 27 per cent OBC reservation, the tribal
rights Bill and the Employment Guarantee Scheme. But look more closely
at these efforts and you realise that when implemented they will
achieve for India universal backwardness.

We should know this considering that we spent our first 40 years of
Independence distributing poverty, but we seem doomed to be ruled by
people who do not learn from history.

Examine with me for a moment the ''social justice'' measures
that the Sonia-Manmohan government has put in place. The Employment
Guarantee Scheme that when implemented fully will cost more than Rs
40,000 crore (the same as Atal Behari Vajpayee's highway programme)
seeks to guarantee 100 days of employment a year. Please go and meet an
Indian family who lives on a hundred days of employment a year and you
will find that they can afford to give the smallest of their children
only one meal of watery gruel a day. When the children begin to die
they are rushed to the nearest hospital where the government arranges,
under another misguided government scheme, for the starving child to be
given Rs 40 a day for its nourishment. It survives and goes home to
start starving again. Instead, if the money were spent on roads in our
more backward districts people would have more than 100 days of work
building them and would be empowered because roads provide access to
the 21st century.

On OBC reservations the government now plans to implement the 27 per
cent quota as well as increase the number of seats for those who
achieve higher learning for reasons other than caste. This is an
impossible thing to achieve because teachers and colleges do not just
sprout out of the ground at the waving of a magic wand, but we will be
spending at least another Rs 10,000 crore on trying to achieve this
educational form of social justice. Please keep in mind, will you, that
many of the quotas reserved for Scheduled Castes and Tribes go unfilled
because the schools they attend are so bad that the dropout rate before
high school is more than 70 per cent. Is this social justice or a sham?


No sooner have we digested this than we will be hit with the Bill that
will give Adivasis the right to cultivate and occupy forest land. This
will mean the end of our forests because in Adivasi areas governance is
so lax that when the timber mafias move in there will be nobody to stop
them. Please remember that a minister in the Maharashtra government is
currently in jail for allowing timber merchants to function on the edge
of a sanctuary.

By the time this government is done with its social justice measures,
India will be not just backward but a wasteland. After the revelations
in the Mitrokhin Archive II, published last year, we need to wonder
seriously if what we are not seeing is the return of the ''foreign
hand''. In this book the former KGB spymaster reveals how the KGB
duped Indira Gandhi into believing that the CIA was the ''foreign
hand''. In fact it was always the KGB. Mitrokhin reveals that many
prominent ministers in Mrs Gandhi's government and nearly all our
Marxists were owned by the KGB. Is something similar happening again?

sathya_shodhak@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
Karan Thapar has made an ass of himself there. The basic fact is that
the lawmakers of India, the PARLIAMENT has unanimously enacted a law
and amended the constitution to provide affirmative action /
reservations for OBSc in the higher education. Arjun Singh is just the
executor of that act.

If they want to repeal this measure, they should go to the parliament
or to BJP (they might find plenty of sympathizers there), asking them
to introduce a bill to defeat the act and the concerned amendment. THAT
is the lawful way. Somehow trying to hold Arjun Singh responsible and
asking him if the Prime Minister agrees with him or not is just plain
and simple DUMB.

This inaptitude coupled with the arrogance is beyond pathetic. These
crusaders for the meritorious can't even display this basic
understanding of Civics that a middle school student would possess.
What kind of merit can they claim to have? Basically they are no more
meritorious. You don't even need to look deeper. Just scratch the
surface and you will find that they are just a bunch of selfish
narcissists who want to continue their merry ways of nepotism and deny
the large section of the country's population, their fair share of the
progress.


Mortayee wrote:
Indian chattering classes deserve Arjun Singh, he is only doing what
Soniaji wants him to do. So ire directed solely against him is futile,
and it should be directed against the Italiano, the real de facto
leader, who is in unique position of exercising the power without
responsibility.


fruitella wrote:
that loser arjun singh would regret having agreed to an interview if he
knew how much of an attention seeking idiot people thought he was after
reading it.


An Indian for equalty wrote:
this interview is really hilarious and it shows his ignorance about
OBCs. it was taken by Karan Thapar for CNN-IBN. i think Mr.Thapar
deserves a pat for a great job. visit this link and have a look at this
wonderful piece of work--
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/decision-on-quota-is-final-arjun/11063-4-single.html
(copy and paste if it doesn't work)











http://www.ibnlive.com/news/decision-on-quota-is-final-arjun/11063-4-single.html

Where do Arjun, Sonia's grandkids study?
Tavleen SinghPosted online: Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 0000 hrs Print
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First, let us drop the pretense that Mr Arjun 27 per cent was acting on
his own when he announced his new quotas. In the Congress party and the
Manmohan Singh Government, nothing, absolutely nothing, happens without
Sonia Gandhi's authorisation. Everyone connected to political Delhi
knows this. Second, let us drop the pretense that the new quotas have
anything to do with education. They do not. They have everything to do
with next year's elections in Uttar Pradesh which, unlike anything
you may have heard about Rae Bareli, are Rahul baba's real political
test. Fawning, sycophantic political commentators have gushed over his
having shown himself ready for a ''bigger role'' by running
Mummy's political campaign during her needless re-election. But this
is not true. If he wants to be our next prime minister, he has to show
that he can win back at least his home state for the Congress party,
and to do this he is in direct competition with 'OBC Maharaja' Shri
Mulayam Singh Yadav.

So, some cynical political pundits in the backrooms of the Congress
party came up with the idea of Arjun Singh's announcement of a 27 per
cent quota for Other Backward Class students. Set the country on fire
if this is what it takes to win elections. This has been the Congress
way for a long time, only India has changed and this kind of tactic no
longer works. But Indian education, already a mess, will end up damaged
beyond repair unless public opinion succeeds in defeating political
cynicism.

The Prime Minister has set up a committee of ministers to try and
deflect the rage of students, but this is not enough. We need to use
the mess created by his Minister of Human Resources Development to
demand some real changes.

At the top of the list is the need for the government to free private
schools and colleges. The licences and quotas that prevent a million
schools and colleges from blooming across the country must be removed
now. Let them be allowed to decide their fee structures and their
academic needs without petty officials poking their noses into their
affairs at every step. If bad ones come up, they will die their own
natural death. We do not need corrupt officials to interfere on grounds
of quotas and permits. What India needs is the ability to educate the
millions of young children who are deprived of a decent education only
because there are not enough good schools.

Schools in urban India resort to the gratuitous cruelty of testing the
intellectual skills of three-year-olds before admitting them. If there
were enough schools this would not happen. In higher education
scarcities are even more severe and again it is because the government
keeps a tight control on how many colleges can come up, what their fee
structures should be and what they should teach.

The Government needs to concentrate on improving the abysmal quality of
the schools and colleges that it runs and unless we abolish the HRD
Ministry and bring back a full-scale Education Ministry, this is not
going to happen. State schools and colleges provide education of such
abysmal quality that almost no politician or bureaucrat sends his own
children to these institutions. Instead, as was revealed in the Rajya
Sabha last week, nearly Rs 30 crore of taxpayers' money has been
spent on the Sanskriti school in Delhi which was built to accommodate
the children of bureaucrats and politicians. It first drew attention
when Atal Behari Vajpayee sent his granddaughter there. Why should she
not have been sent to a neighbourhood municipal school? Where do the
grandchildren of Arjun Singh and Sonia Gandhi study? Unless the state
stops its interference in private schools we must demand that their
children and grandchildren be forced to attend only state schools.

If the state agrees to stay out of private education let it reserve as
many seats as it wants to in its own schools and colleges. Let it
discover, as I did in a Gujarati village last week, that in rural India
people are not even sure what an OBC is. In the village I visited I
asked which castes would qualify for the new quota and they said
Adivasis and Dalits. When I told them they already had their own quota
they looked puzzled and said, ''We don't have any other backward
castes in this village.''

When the 27 per cent quota starts being implemented, though, we might
find that everyone is suddenly an OBC. At a time when caste divisions
even in the darkest depths of rural India are beginning to weaken
whoever thought this one up has some really bad karma coming his way.

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