Re: new paper on indian y chromosome variation


PGGopal wrote:
> Ranjit :I replied to this message over an hour back but it appears to
> have disappeared in cyberspace.
> I will repeat some of the thoughts.
> I found the summary most interesting, particularly my Y Haplogroup
> H M52(obtained via the National Geographic/IBM Study, This article
> refers to this Hap Group as follows"Indigenous Indian haplogroups :On
> the basis of the combined phylogeographic distributions of haplotypes
> observed among populations defined by social and linguistic criteria,
> candidate haplogroups that most plausibly arose in situ within the
> boundaries of present day India include C5-M356, F*-M89, H*-M69 (and
> its sub-clades H1-M52 and H2-APT). My Haplogroup according to Spencer
> Welles settled originated most probably in India around the Indus
> Valley but could have originated in Iran or the eastern Middle East>
> This Hap H with its sub-clades arose 'in situ' and is called an Indian
> Haplogroup.

Haplogroup H is nearly completely restricted to India, Sri Lanka, and
Pakistan.
http://www.roperld.com/YBiallelicHaplogroups.htm

That makes your male ancestry Indian. What other conclusions would you
draw from that inference?

> In another posting you had asked me whether I had told Nat
> Geog.(NG) whether I was Indian when I sent the samples. For obvious
> reasons the initial submission was anaonymous and NG assured the guinea
> pigs that controls existed to make it so. However, after the results
> came they requested that I volunteer for a study they were developing
> and I agreed to answer a questionnaire.
> In the Table provided in the paper it shows that my haplogroup is
> widely represented. High concentration in Tribes, but also well
> represented in Upper to Middle castes and some Lower
> Castes(particularly in the so called Indo European, or North Indian).
> This study makes
> nonsense the theory that North Indians are Aryans and S Indians
> Dravidians. If H M52 is a Dravidian Hap. then Dravidians are all over
> in all castes.

What can you make of haplogroup G?
http://www.pbase.com/daveb/g2

http://www.roperld.com/YBiallelicHaplogroups.htm
Haplogroup G may have originated in India or Pakistan, and has
dispersed into central Asia, Europe, and the Middle East.

> Gopal

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