china's dismal human rights record
- From: Tom Jigme Wheat <thomaswheat1975@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:21:40 -0800 (PST)
It's unclear whether Chinese President Hu Jintao, whose U.S. visit
begins today, will be confronted by President Obama on the lack of
religious freedom for his country's 1.3 billion inhabitants.
Errh . . . it seems to me pretty clear what happened at the White
House between the two, based on the BBC report I read this morning:
"Nothing!, that is nothing that hasn't been ironed out beforehand."
At their joint press conference, Hu said "China has made enormous
progress recognized in the world"
Hu Jin tao doesnt have any real power. He's just a puppet of the
military and party bosses. Last week when US defense secretary bob
gates visited china, Hu Jin Tao was not informed about the test
flight
of china's supposed stealth fighter the J-20 that occured while the
secretary was meeting with the chinese president.
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Mr Hu was speaking at a rare joint news conference with US President
Barack Obama on the first full day of his state visit to the US.
Asked to justify China's human rights record, Mr Hu said China had
"made enormous progress recognized in the world".
Mr Obama said he saw China's "peaceful rise" as good for the United
States.
"The US has an interest in seeing hundreds of millions of people
lifted out of poverty," Mr Obama said.
. . .
Mr Obama admitted that differences on human rights issues were
"occasionally a source of tension" between the US and China.
"I believe part of justice and part of human rights is people being
able to make a living and having enough to eat and having shelter and
having electricity," he said.
"We welcome China's rights.
"We just want to make sure that [its] rise occurs in a way that
reinforces international norms, international rules, and enhances
security and peace as opposed to it being a source of conflict either
in the region or around the world."
Mr Obama said that although the two nations may demonstrate
differences when it comes to these issues, it does not prevent them
from co-operating in other "crucial areas".
Mr Hu said China was willing to continue a conversation about human
rights on the basis of mutual respect and non-interference in China's
internal affairs.
"China is a developing country with a huge population and also a
developing country in a crucial stage of reform," the Chinese
president and Communist Party leader said.
Mr Hu added that China "faces many challenges in social and economic
development. A lot still needs to be done in China on human rights."
Mr Hu at one point did not respond to an American reporter's question
about human rights issues, saying later that difficulties in
translation and technical equipment caused the error.
. . .
It is clear to me that pretty much everything has been worked out
beforehand before all this hoopla of an "opulent state dinner" for the
distinguished visitor was splattered on the front page of newspapers.
The US president acknowledges that human rights include people getting
fed and their livelihoods well taken of. A sick man has diminished
human rights, especially if circumstance does not permit his sickness
getting treated. And a lively man whose life is suddenly taken away
from him is stripped completely of his human rights. What is more
precious or even sacrosanct than life itself?
What are you talking about here?
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Do you want to have your life taken away from you against your will?
Also, the dead man's loved ones also have their human rights greatly
curtailed both because love is taken away from them and because they
are now deprived of someone who had provided for them.
Wars of aggression therefore are much greater sources of human rights
violation.
Furthermore, these wars have created the need for countries to be more
security conscious than when they are not faced with encirclement or
threat of aggression (lest that the collaboration between the outside
equipped with overwhelming forces and a few dissenters from within
would jeopardize the security of many).
In China today, people are well fed and in good health. And they're
free to do whatever they want, provided that what they do does not
interfere with the welfare of the masses. The problems of religious
freedom in China are largely artificially created when people are
spending foreign funds, such as grants from the NED, to turn religion
into politics and to use protest as a means to build a path to topple
the government.
any protest in china is charicterized by the party bosses as trying
to
topple the government. do you really believe there is no poverty in
china
see this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_China
There is no rhyme or reason to the Tibetan students protesting the use
of a single language in schools.
why cant tibetans learn there own language. how would you like it if
tibet had conquered china and chinese language was banned in school
Nor is there any basis to the Falung
Gong "practitioners" to claim they have a religion when most Chinese
have practiced Tai chi daily for years for reasons of physical and
mental health.
The people who agitate to topple the Chinese government or try to
label the Chinese president as a dictator either don't know what
they're talking about or are mean-spirited with a destructive agenda.
First President Hu has a fixed single term presidency and the plan of
leadership succession is well-known and merit-based. Hu didn't come
to power because his dad was a dictator like Baby Doc Duvalier and his
Papa Doc Duvalier of Haiti. Nor is any of his relatives going to
succeed him. Further, Hu does not have all the power. There is a
presidium and a politburo, all the members of which came from the
population at large.
there are only 70 million CCP party members who are eligible for
government office and they are not elected by the public. There are
no
elections in china except at the village level.
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People who get their news from sources from Dharamsala have
questionable motives because sources from Dharamsala are not
trustworthy news sources. And people who constantly exaggerate
statistics on alleged Chinese prosecutions and executions are
dishonest and have ulterior motives in their professed concern for
human rights. Particularly, people who endlessly accuse the Chinese
government of criminality but always refrain from condemning acts of
large scale violence in wars of aggression clearly have lost all their
credibility and make their accusations against the Chinese government
meaningless.
lo yeeOn
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Who's a dictator? "Hu's a dictator", observed US Senate's silly Reid!
Three of the four top U.S. congressional leaders plan to skip a state
dinner tonight with Chinese President Hu Jintao, highlighting the
contentious relationship between Congress and the major economic
power.
House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell won't attend the black-tie
event at the White House. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a critic
of China's human-rights policy, plans to go. The state dinner is the
first for a Chinese leader in more than 13 years.
The decision to pass on the dinner may add to distrust between China
and the U.S., said Dan Mahaffee, an expert on China at the
Washington-based Center for the Study of the Presidency and Congress.
"It sends an unfortunate message that at a time of competition between
the two countries, that American politicians are busy looking inward",
Mahaffee said.
Hu's visit is focused on economic ties between the two countries,
including more than $400 billion in annual trade, as well as
differences over human rights, China's enforcement of
intellectual-property rights and what U.S. officials say is the
artificially low value of the yuan.
. . .
Members of Congress are frequent critics of China, accusing the
country of currency manipulation, abusing trade laws, threatening
U.S. national security and violating human rights.
do you deny that china violates international intellectual property
laws
also if china does not revalue its currency inflation will continue
to
get worse in china.
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